Dps healing

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Heya! It feels like most dps classes got to much heals.
I find it kinda wierd when a Survival hunter with Pack leader heals more than a Ret paladin.
Should lower most dps classes heals.

The only classes with decent of heals should be the hybrids? Druids,Shaman,monk and Paladins.

I play a Warrior and Hunter myself and I actually felt sorry for a Ret paladin the other day when his Eternal flame hero talent heal ticked for 14k and flash of light heals for like 300-500k and a Survival hunter can use their heal and Defensives to get heal ticks for 70-100k from the pack leader talent. And Shaman have decent heals aswell.

This post is actually just me feeling sorry for Rets sometime. I remember when they actually could recover better than most Melees ( as it should be ? )

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“hybrids”… meanwhile ww monk hardcasts vivify for like what… 150-200k? I’d rather die than ever cast that disgrace of an ability.

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Hybrids are the biggest jokes atm…
Mobility and self healing creep made it so that “pure” or not mobile class actually got both bit also retained their original strengths meanwhile a druid sweats to heal half of what a warr heals passivly while dancing around you

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Interesting post for a Death Knight as I noticed the Blood DK was often outhealing healers (including myself) in S4 DF. IT can be extremely frustrating as they could simply do more DPS and the healers have higher numbers as healers (much more fun for both parties).

Let’s see how TWW goes anyway,

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True. Hunter and warriors heal alot more than hybrids and thats bad.
Its funny to see how as ret if i try to heal myself i will oom the time i top myself while hunter or war ( classes that don’t use mana as resource) are not only allowed to use their heals without a resource cost but also heals for more than me.
The only hybrid so far that can top themself is the shadow priest but instead of flash heal they top from their damage which is ok.

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There are some weird tunings in terms of selfhealing.

Boomy seems to have like really bad selfheals in tight situations, hardcasting regrowth are somewhat bad, rejuv does not much meanwhile ferals instant heal proccs do heal quite good and feral selfheal in general is decent still healing less passively than some non hybrids.

Devastation selfheal outside of renewing blaze looks like the same as boomy, quite bad for how long you cast living flame on yourself.

Enhance and ret healing on themself again seems really good while instant. For shadows casted heals i remember as quite good aswell. (Not seen enough sp to fight in 1v1)

But then ive seen uhdks healing against 2 dps speccs with deathstrike and all the tools, warriors healing as much as ferals spamming regrowths etc.

idk if ww monk counts as hybrid, but here we spam vivify and it feels bad, but then passive heals from expel harm is really good again.

I think that active healing should do better than some passive sustainability.

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Sp healing is terrible, but I find the hero talent that suck teammate hp broken atm.

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While i agree that hunters are ridiculous just like fury atm and also agree generally i also disagree. Pple are like for example rets dont heal enough they should heal more. I mean yes sure but then they also have to do less dmg then pure dps which isnt the case either. Also ppl dont understand warriors are tank hybrids. Wws are a good example. Should they be tanky, able to heal and pump a lot cuz they have 3 roles? This makes no sense cuz it would be op. Just as op as rets doing op heals and dmg. Its just not how it works. Also dont forget u talk about self heals. Hunters and warriors cant heal teammates outside of hunters mending bandage. Thats something only hybrids can.

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is anyway a unplayable hero talent, every higher sv hunt is sentinel from what i have heard

mm hunt is dark ranger, and bm is unplayable

it´s still a global, and when u have a mortal strike effect on you it still feels bad, otherwise its good, can crit up to 1 mio with barkskin up + heart of the wild

without these modifiers, regrowth is still a global waste, while Warris have their heal backed into the Dmg rotation, i dont mind Warrior heal, if Hybrids could heal better

but Ret, feral/Boomy heal feels outdated since Dragonflight, about enhancement shaman cant say really much, looks like Gapcloser/defensive cd´s are more of a problem

yeah pretty much

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Reta still can Bubble and burst, nobady feel sorry for them

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yeah its baked into a global and thats how it should be the least^^ Just noticed how good feral healing is after seeing how bad boomkins healing is in comparison.

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yeah idk what is going on with boomkin heal currently, its really bad

yep

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I only played Unholy when i played DK, but i don’t play DK anymore.

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Nerf to the ground passive self-healing and remove the stamina bonus on PVP trinket

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thats a good thing wish they could do this

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The only DPS classes I expect to do any decent amount/worth while amount of healing without affecting their DPS are: Retribution Paladin and Shadow Priest.

If you noticed other classes seem to be doing a lot of healing, check their DPS… maybe it is a little lower than it should be and they have been playing with n3wbs.

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Fighting fury war as ret pala and must say he healed more than me and did much more dmg than me.
Is that cool for you Thomasman guy?

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Yy, but who mitigated the most dmg? Who had more immunities??

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I mean mine heals for more than that? Whilst in PVE yday I got a 2.2 mill crit, PvP wise the instant free vivify + chi wave + expel harm is pretty nice…

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Hybrids are indeed a joke. Ele shams have it all. No classes that pull out high numbers should be able to heal nicely as well. (that’s a healers job)

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