DPS in Dungeons

I’ve been doing all the dungeons now after hitting 70 as an Outlaw Rogue and finishing the campaign. Every single dungeon I go in I am last in DPS. Another 70 Outlaw Rogue who had 20 less ilvl than me did 4 times as much DPS than me.

What’s going on here?

Wrong rotation & talents?

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I think so

But better check at the Icy Veins that will guide everyone easily with the talent trees

But I think I have my own rotation with Enh shaman than Icy Veins

Always at the beginning Stormstrike

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Look on details and see what spells are doing the most damage on the other outlaw rogue compared to yours.

With outlaw it’s usually to do with roll the bones refresh or not and keeping blade flurry up, oh and not capping combo points.

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Sounds like the wrong talents and rotation.

Check out icyveins and wowhead for viable builds. Also if you need help with optimal, rotation download the addon herorotation it’s great a great way to learn the best rotation for dps.

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It’s an icy veins copy. Sinister striker, roll the bones, increase attack speed, inbetween the eyes for more crit, keeping energy up constantly with thistle tea and adrenaline rush, blade furrying when more than one mob. The Rogue just did so much more damage…

u can try my build (import for outlaw)
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if this is not going to help u get better dps then u gotta change your rotation, also check ur poisons, apply instant poison atleast

usually ur rotation/opener is going to be like this
stealth-roll-ambush-snd-adrenaline-ghostly strike-echo reprimand-dreadblades-between the eyes-and cycle sinister-dispatch(max cp)
pistol shot(IF PROC only, higher priority over anything else if u dont have cp, if u max cp and have chance to land between the eyes (with 4+ cp) before procced pistol then do it)
u gotta maintain between the eyes and SnD 100% uptime, land ghostly strike when possible
spend like 15-30 mins on training dummy and u will shine

Rotation issue most likely.

Fixed my build and it’s much better, thanks.

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you dont know how to play ?

you save all cds for bosses instead timing them and knowing how to use them to optimize your dps most ?

you pick incorrect talents beliving in nonsense that you can pick anything instead picking bis ?

you are high itlv but with wrong secondaries ?

all of the above

sometimes the most obvious reason is the true one.

go to wowhead and read on your class. it really helps

Or they can discuss these things on the forum.

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If you don’t use the best buil, rotation and playstyle for the specific content you are doing then you’re feckt… so much for “freedom of choice” if you don’t conform you’re stuck at bottom.

www .wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/outlaw/talent-builds-pve-dps
www .icy-veins.com/wow/outlaw-rogue-pve-dps-spec-builds-talents

good luck and have fun (if you can, in this dumpster fire of a “game”

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Think there is some sort of scaling issue. Also had a lvl 61 dk in my party do 80k-100k more dmg then everyone else wich were like lvl 69

That’s another factor I’d like to know about.

that is natural because of stats scaling.

but you cannot use those excuses on max level in hc dungeons/m0 :slight_smile:

if you are like 360 and not doing 20k st and 50k stable aoe you are doing something wrong. if you do then you are gucci for low key m+ on wednesday

If others on the same ilvl always out dps you even with lower ilvl there is something you need to fix in your rotation/playstyle

Showing how little you know about the game.

If you have a shadow priest in the party and then a monk and a demon hunter as the dps, the shadow priest doesn’t even have time to get their damage going before everything is dead in normal mythics. Shadow priests damage is going to be really bad until the mobs start surviving for a longer amount of time so they can actually get their damage going.

A lot of things, perhaps read a guide?

I have found the same thing - I have found highest DPS of rogues is coming from - still trying to crack that 20k plus dps.
1 - Subtlety AOE Black powder builds -
Sh Dance - Multi Ruppy - Sepsis - Shuriken (for full combo points - one target = 1 combo point) - B.Powder.
Repeat over and over. Macro tea with Shuriken - Macro cold blood with B.P.
2 - Outlaw with blade flurry etc, probably swords. Don’t know much about this yet.

Not only am I struggling with dps in dungeons pvp is another world in retail. Im new to Retail and IMO it is so much harder to fathom and play a rogue than in classic.

Sus