DPS should be more bound to skill

please keep to topic , which basically is the OP not knowing what specs do what and the understanding of meta.

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Oh no Op is right, ret pala is really strong in AoE. What puny linked is a raid encounter tier list.

No that is M+

Ret is nowhere near that high in Raid

Then idk, from what I’ve seen Ret and BM are pretty good on AoE. Kinda lackluster on ST though.

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We all know how this will end, I will point out a few things and then you will call me elitist and/or toxic.

This is another site:-

For all affixes in M+

For Raid

M+ does vary some from week to week if you want to look at specific affixes but that was an overall this season.

The previous stuff I linked is from warcraftlogs.

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Pfffffff. There’s nothing you can ‘point out’.
BM hunter is the best hunter. Requires extreme skill to master; like gigachad brainpower!

This is another site that analyses both

M+

Raid

https://u.gg/wow

It’s kind of funny how the data varies in all

My best guess is that Bm and Ret fall off hard on high end keys (23+). Atm I’m doing 20s and like I said they seem to be solid, and on the other spectrum have had issues with destro locks and SPriests. Also it might be that they are good in certain comp (Sprest+Aug+Fire=god).

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But they don’t. At least none of the spriests I’ve played with (in keys up to +25) have done more damage than either my BM hunter or feral druid.

Its how they work with fire mage and aug in the group it amps there dps.

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So maybe I’m right and the tier list is made with ideal comps in mind.

The fire mage amps the spriest? How does that work?

Int buff + Ebon might. Also my best guess is both are DoT based and they have time to ramp up.

Int buff, fair enough, but ebon might buffs everyone, so I wasn’t counting that.

On my hunter, I’ve played with spriest and aug loads of times, and I top the meters easily with the aug buffs and pi.

Yeah I know. I beat them as well with demo lock and am trying to figure out why they seem to be only good with fire mages. Also haven’t been impressed by fire mages in my runs as well, frost and arcane on the other hand have been very good.

Exactly this

Also look over hotfix’s last 3 months and you will see SP damage has been nerfed about 5 times.

Yeah but I assume that the charts Puny linked are recent.