DPS should be more bound to skill

Well, the majority of people we see playing both specs are only playing them because they’re meta and don’t really know how to play them well. You have to get past anything the majority of us are doing to actually find good players.

Yeah, and when the nerfs happened, there were people here on this forum saying they didn’t understand it because spriest damage isn’t OP and the reason they’re taken is for their utility (primarily mass dispel).

Iam talking about the DH saying SP are bad which they are now but they have had a lot of nerfs and was not use because of mind soothe or MD

‘The DH’ is me, is it? I have been playing since (well before) the start of the season…

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That’s very true they keep nerfing them.

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no idea whats that has to do with anything but good for you i guess.

But they are still S tier according to the charts Puny linked which I assume are based after the nerfs, and I agree with the DH a lot of bad Spriest with high-ish IO out there.

Well, you were saying they were good but they were nerfed and that’s why they seem bad now. Are you now saying they were already bad at the start of the season?

Ofc there is but its down to how the group comp synergise

holy pala and there buffs
druid tank and verse buff
aug and there buffs
fire mage and into buff
sp and there buffs

once place together you can get to 2.9/3k easy.

The easiest spec to play in this game is Destruction 3 button spec

Please show me were i said that , that SP were bad dps wise at start of season. I honestly think you are going out of your way to nitpick and start a fight go ahead have fun doing that.

These tier lists are interesting.

Especially the M+ one, which has spriest at 140.3k dps, below both enhance shaman (143.3k) and sub rogue (145.7k). Considering that the spriest and fire mage figures will both be inflated because the very best players in the world are playing them, spriest clearly doesn’t owe its place in the meta to its dps.

You made a snide remark when I pointed out that I’d been playing since the start of the season before spriest was nerfed. Even then, at the beginning of the season before they were nerfed, their damage wasn’t good enough to warrant a place in the meta.

That’s because there aren’t based on through put only. Priest in general have some of the if not the best utility for M+, MD alone makes bursting non existend etc.

Yes, that’s ENTIRELY my point.

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Its also wrong. Like the rogue raid ranking alone makes me scratch my head a thousand times. Like I really wanna know how they create these lists. They state what they use as reference but I press massive X for doubt.

Not to mention it doesnt state what each spec excells at. For instance if you bring an assa rogue into an encounter its because its a boss destroyer.

Do you understand what synergy means how each classes buff each other and that those 5 classes and specs bring out they best in each other hence they god comp but ofc you are allowed to make snide remarks and nobody else is.

Have a pleasant evening :slight_smile:

Since you obviously know better than anyone else, perhaps you can explain how the figures Puny provided are wrong, and spriest actually does MORE dps than enhance shaman and sub rogue? I’m quite happy to wait as long as it takes.

You have this illusion i mentioned anything about those list :slight_smile: and you seem to be very angsty about some views on a forum.

You said i never seen an SP do that much dps when on my hunter or w/e class you play which is not part of the god comp. And if i need to explain that to you we will be here all night.
I guess i leave you to the last word and your thoughts , perhaps read the link of how the group works and why they were nerfed and not just there ultility.
You seem very hung up over Puny’s charts come to terms that you need to take them with a pinch of salt and i hope you have a great rest of night .

I am going to watch some movie and get some popcorn and maybe some soda which is far more pleasant then debating about some comp in a game you refuse to believe about.

Different classes excel at different fights has always been a thing. That is just overall regardless of what you’re looking at.

But none of those breakdowns I posted are going into that much detail.

The point is whoever put assa rogue in the spot it is in those raid tier lists has no clue what he was doing.