DPS Sim no were near reality. What am i doing wrong?

Hi all.

So i currently sim 26.8k on my surv hunter. But im still well down low on the meters in my mythic raids - outdone by guys who sim 24kish.

I use. Hellki for my rotation and basically follow it as what to do.

Any idea what im doing wrong? Why am i so low :frowning:

You’re mythic raiding and following an addon? :thinking:

It’s good for casual use but you should really be doing it yourself to understand your class better.

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Go to warcraftlogs, open up your logs.

Go to warcraftlogs, rankings and select surv hunter from the drop down. Select the correct boss on the correct difficulty and look at someone who has good parses. These are generally parses that aren’t “cheese”.

Pull up that persons logs and you can compare them to your own, how many of what ability did he use compared to you. Did he have more uptime while you stood there scratching your backside and stuff like that.

It’s a powerful analysis tool.

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Because you’ll never hit a sims numbers? You’d need 100% parse and perfect play. Sims run at 100% every skill being hit perfectly, at the perfect time. Using the perfect skills to get out of mechanics, and damage through etc.

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^This. Sims assume 100% uptime, not dealing with mechanics, no getting out of the red. You might be able to do it once in a blue moon, but nothing more.

First thing first: don’t use addons for your rotations, try to understand your class better instead, because i don’t know Hellki, but i don’t think it can track all the variables where you should change the priority (most DPS classes no longer follow a real rotation, but a priority list).

Second: i’m not an expert Surv Hunter, i play it as an alt on Normal / Heroic raids, but keep in mind that in general you will never hit the same sim-DPS in the reality, sims are always 100% parses, wich is something you will never see unless your play is perfect.

Third: check the sims settings, if you are simming in Patchwerk, be certain that you will never see the same DPS in the actual fights, Patchwerk involves like 0 movements and 0 downtime, it’s basically a target dummy, for me is better simming with Light Movement or Beastlord (in single-target obviously)

You should be able to get very close to a sim when practicing on a dummy, though, and that’s the first step. If you can’t do your rotation perfectly against a dummy, you won’t do it when things are shooting at you. :slight_smile:

So I would recommend first trying to match what the sim says in peace and quiet against a target dummy.

Pablo, Dejarous’ advice is solid. I have made a comparison between one of your medium-ish logs and a high-ranked log. Play with this for a while to understand what happened in each case:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/pLW2XdjPkwKG76NY/DvXTdRbGwfxML1AH#fight=1,2&source=21,Ingeks&type=damage-done&options=512&view=timeline

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This is my problem as well. I can do ~26 when it is on dummy but when I am in the real content I am doing 21/22/23.

Well, that’s entirely legit, depending on the fight. So not necessarily a problem.

If you have a job to do - switch to adds, run to soak something - or if you have to run around avoiding stuff, and use defensives, it’s going to take you away from your DPS.

That’s when you really want to follow Dejarous’ advice, and compare your specific logs on that specific boss against someone else of the same spec who did better. What talents did they use? What cooldowns, when? What did they do that you didn’t?

Here’s a similar comparison for you:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/ygbdMBhTmAYVq7wZ/mVwd2L8Tv4WcgnQD#fight=3,1&source=17,Karitin&type=damage-done

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That’s false, you can do more dps than your sims as they are an average of a lot of attempts, you could get super lucky with procs and deal a lot more dps than what you sim.

Also sims usually follow hectic cleave or patchwork style fights so they aren’t the most accurate.

@OP, The best way to master your class is to do a couple of steps.

First read a simple guide, any guide with a little bit of merit to it for example icy-veins guides, get a general idea of what your class is and better understanding from it

Afterwards turn on detailed ability tooltips, read every ability and passive and understand them and how they interact with each other.

Then find a very good player, talk to them if they are willing and ask them for instructions, or you could watch a detailed youtube video from a very good player out there if you could find one.

After seeing through the eyes of a very good player, try to imitate their game play but with an understanding of what’s and why’s ( gained from asking said player / watching them explain it on the video )

After that start applying your own style to the gameplay, shift it to suit your needs and the situation and apply your logic to it.

Now practice a metric ton.

Viola you should be pulling purple logs now.

For orange logs you need to understand your class perfectly by knowing every little interaction there is to it, getting ultra lucky with procs and playing it perfectly with the best conditions.

Also don’t use ability predictive addons like deja said.

There are however addons that help you track stuff which would improve your dps a lot.

Also being comfortable in a fight can really help your dps, a lot of dps get nervous and focus on not failing which in turn makes them lose dps, so fight knowledge will increase your dps by a huge sum.

Sims are useless, compare your self with top logs and see what they are doing. You can check their ability cast timeline, their talents, any pooled resources. Also check how many casts they got off from each of your abilities and such. It’s all about the logs.

Most low effort and simple way, is to open up your logs on warcraftlogs.

Then go to wow analyzer and put in your log and it will tell you what you did wrong.

Use wowanalyzer. It’ll show you where to improve

That’s not always true, sims have alot of iterations and generally they are made to not even lose a GCD, so tecnically if you start losing GCD for any reasons, you will do (theorycally) less dps than your sim-dps (unless you are very lucky with procs).
I mean, it can happen, it happened to me more than one time, but it’s not very common, expecially if you sim in a Patchwerk-style fight, wich is why i suggest to never sim as this because it’s not very realistic in actual raid environment

a lot of the sims also only run single target perfect conditions with little movement. Most of the fights in BFA are multi target.

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