DPS Warriors and Rets need a solid PVE reworks

WoW Classic Season of Discovery
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According to data from logs: https://imgur.com/TnkCnBq
Classes who perform well with at least ONE dps spec in MC are:
1 - hunters
2 - rogues
3 - warlock
4 - mage
5 - druid
6 - shaman
7 - priest
8 - warrior
9 - paladin

Literally those classes are the bottom of dps charts for pve content.
Ret pvp burst is obvious, thus it cannot be raw dmg, has to be some other buildup mechanic.

Tho Warriors… Blizzard? Seriously?
Most complicated rotation with T1, requiring stance dance, skillcap above Musk’s Starlink possibilities.

Are you seriously joking with this class? It sucks in pvp, it sucks in pve.
Can’t tank without shaman’s alpha buff, garbo dog budget rogue takes aggro from you.
Can’t dps without full world buffs, consumables, weapon stones.

That’s an F. Serious one.

Already rerolled a rogue, so i don’t care anymore, just pointing out how out of touch you are with class design.

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I told you, wait for scalling. Warrior will be top 1 dps even without runes, because they were so good class in classic classic.

Well, actually the Warrior is on good way. Back in Phase 2 i told that every other class is in Cataclysm while Warrior is stuck in vanilla.
Now i think Warrior is in TBC while other classes are in Cataclysm.

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I don’t see any problem with wars , it was the same in P3.

Bad at the begining and beating everyone after loot get squired.

For ret , yeah they need a buff , clearly

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Legolas, stop your 30seconds fights mentality ok? Class is garbo dog, arms is DEAD, you are viable both in pve and pvp.

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I mean, you know very well that warrior will be top in BWL, AQ & naxx.

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Scaling, for 8 months ive been told to wait for “scaling” . As a new wow player i didnt know what i was getting into when i made warrior as my second char, but in retrospect it was the worst decision i have ever made in a videogame

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But… but bwl gear and stuff…

Warrior was always the worst class at the beginning/mid expansion (like 1.5 years) only to shine when expansion is about to end (half year).

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No, warriors were beating everybody in 20 second fights. If fights lasted longer than the duration of a warriors stacking +% damage buffs, the damage would fall off.

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after 2week war are already in the middle of the pack , OP’s just braindead.

but ret & boomy should get a hit buff to help since they’re the one really underperforming.

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I suppose you read that list upside down, so nr9 is the best. Yes.
Nerf paladins to the ground.
Holy paladins 1000hps above other healers.
Prot paladins doing 2k+dps(in pvp u kill urself in 2 seconds Holy shield got 0gcd hits 300 each strike)
Ret paladins dont even speak about that stupid spec, they 100>0 anyone in 1 swing. Pve they are doing more than fine, way to overtuned in all 3 specs.
Delete paladins and we fine.

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Sounds like l2p issue

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ret doesnt need a hit buff in all fairness, sure it can help but boomie is more of an offender of needing to hard gear for hit, especially when you need like 10% and get 0 from talents.
the bosses in MC aren’t exactly melee friendly, geddon, garr, rag, shazzrah force melee to back off or die.

l2p lmao.

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i mean you can’t buff boomy/ret damage as they’re already good enough , so reducing their miss would be a good starting point.

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add a dot that would stack with time (ret)
mortal strike requires a buff to benefit from attack power, so is overpower (war)

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I think you are confusing Holy Shield with Lightning Shield.

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Shaman need buff!

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Paladins Holy Shield works just as Lightning shield did Before the fix. Holy shield is bugged.

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Wavé’s first post in history that doesn’t call for shaman nerfs

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Having done 3 resets of MC now, I can say I think warrior is fine.

…Quick strike is absolute garbage though, can something be done to make hands rune not a complete waste for 2 handers? It hits like a wet noodle and my ‘rotation’ is already super tight.

Make it a guaranteed crit, or take it off of the global cooldown (like Cataclysm’s heroic strike) or something?

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my boy, i feel you… but this sod stuff is about 85% done. some more raids and than this trickles out and gets shut down. there will be no big reworks. sorry to be so straight forward.