I forgot to reply to you. We will travel around a lot. Stick to a place for a while then travel. I don’t want to stay in Stormwind all the time, but ofcourse the Dragon Isles will be a good place. But also Dragonblight or other places that have a lot of nature or something with Dragonkin in it.
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This is overcome by simply not recruiting ‘furry’ roleplayers. You can usually sniff them off from a mile away.
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Not really, one could say the same for any ‘themed’ race (ie Pandaren onwards). Dracthyr’s ‘blank canvass’ type approach is only limiting to those with poor grasp of the setting they’re playing in.
Zirkonal here is a Dracthyr who (much like Sarkareth, though perhaps with less adjacent daddy issues) has taken Neltharion’s lessons to perhaps the logical conclusion - seek power and improvement as a soldier at all costs, which has led him to study the most powerful (in his view) realm of magic, Fel. He is well aware of the dangers, having seen how its misuse has been documented through the ages.
That is no reason to ignore a vast power and its potential uses in protecting those he has been sworn to serve though.
Yes, adapting to ‘civilian’ life is not easy for a race designed by purpose to be soldiers but experiencing what Azeroth has to offer, the adventures and mystery all contribute to that goal of ‘self perfection’ as well.
My two cents would be to (if you’re going the neutral path) would be to have the overall ‘meeting ground’ be somewhere in the Dragon Isles and for faction specific Dracthyr to congregate in factional areas if they wish otherwise.
I think a band of Dracthyr adventurers aiding the peoples of Azeroth in their various woes (especially with a certain Harbinger stirring up trouble everywhere) would help them both establish themselves as a trusted and respected name, while also letting them engage and digest new experiences with a world radically different to what they may have known in the past.
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As in, this is as equally broad-brush tarring as any other assertation, and equally as untrue.
You get just as many Bad RPers who consider the Black Templar Furry Hunter meme absolutely peak humour and without any nuance or subtext in any way.
Edit: the rest is Good Points, though.
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Got a name?
Will you work with main factions, dragons or on your own terms?
I think I get what Zirkonal is saying. It’s not that every furry is a bad RPer - but I think they’re trying to condemn the behaviour of overtly sexual characters and players, or maybe denouncing some of the more secondlife-esque roleplay that some dracthyr fall into. At least that’s how I took it to mean. Maybe that’s a bit too charitable but I do kind of get it, in the same way that worgen/Gilnean guilds are fine but pack guilds tend not to be.
But getting back to dracthyr as characters rather than some of the people who play them:
Something I do find interesting with dracthyr is the comparison to demon hunters because I don’t quite think it’s one to one. While both dracthyr and the illidari have been introduced in their respective expansion and dealt with their respective enemies, we know way more about the Legion. Demon Hunters can always hunt down more demons, even as their numbers dwindle - or they can focus more on reintegrating into kaldorei/sin’dorei society. With dracthyr, I don’t think there’s anything quite as direct. There’s integrating into Azeroth and maybe into the Alliance or Horde as a whole, but an unfortunate truth is that primalists simply aren’t the antagonists the Legion were. They’re not as compelling, they’re not as simple to understand, and to be honest - they’re not that interesting. I really liked Razageth as an antagonist, but we never really got to see why people wanted to help her and the incarnates, what the whole “grand injustice” of the aspects was. All of that to say I think it’s difficult to find a unifying goal for dracthyr in a guild. Not impossible, but certainly a lot more difficult.
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I’d wait with committing to taking on any officers outside of yourself if I were you. Having an extra officer or 2 can be a great help for sure, but if they aren’t the right ones, they are just another headache. Best of luck with the guild!
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Exactly this. It’s not just furrys that do this mind, which I should have added.
I think one way you can look at Dracthyr is they are the abandoned by their creator and it is up to them to decide what kind of niche they fit into within the world.
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The sad point with the dracthyr seeking their place is that their draconic abilities and the impact they can provide are completely overlooked by the blizz themselves. We don’t see green ones skyrocketing in the Cenarion hierarchy simply due to their connection to both the Emerald Dream and the green flight, there aren’t many blues except for Kalecgos renowned among the arcane circles, the Earthen Ring hardly has any blacks or reformed Primalists even mentioned, and I won’t even start about how it would make sense for the figures of power to keep a bronze dracthyr nearby 24/7 in case an assassination attempt or something else (yes, Khadgar, looking at you here) becomes successful enough to demand a rewind on the spot. And all of that goes aside from the option to just join their respectful flight as a full member. But to see that happen there should be more than RPers trying to make sense beyond generic adventuring.
Point of order though; Dracthyr have no ‘their flight’, as scale colour for them doesn’t correlate to their abilities.
Also, only Evokers canonically are able to draw to that extent on Dragon adjacent powers. ‘Regular’ Dracthyr don’t all have that, if at all.
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I mean the colour of abilities, not the scales. And yes, evokers are the top elite able to use all five flights’ powers, while most dracthyr are restricted to one or two at most. It’s what I mean, that their draconic abilties specifically put into them by Neltharion should be enough to cling to the flight they have affinity to.
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I see a Demon Hunter trying to “reintegrate into society” and immediately wish for the Illidan novel to be freely available as a primer for the class as a whole.
One of them could try, sure, but they wouldn’t ever succeed. They aren’t Dracthyr. They aren’t “just” elite warriors; they’re half-demonic, volatile, often mentally unstable, and perpetually bloodthirsty mutants. One and all.
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This isn’t a knock against you (or really anyone else referring to the books) but my god, if these things are so important - and they often are - they should be in the damn game. Even in a medium that is all about reading and writing - not all of us like to dedicate time to entire novels, and even for those who do - reading a story about a character or set of characters that you might not have that much investment in just for the worldbuilding doesn’t seem like an enjoyable exercize. (I’m sure the Sylvanas novel probably had some great bits to it but there’s no chance I’m reading a book about my least favourite character in all of fiction.)
It’s especially weird because they absolutely 100% had the chance to show that at the end of Dragonflight. In fact if anything I took the little edgelord corner of Amirdrassil with the rogues and warlocks and (if I’m remembering it correctly) demon hunters there to mean they could.
Anyway Blizz - show, don’t tell. GOD.
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I’d be interested, my Drac mage (reaaaaally doubling down on the Blue aspects of her Draconic heritage lmao) needs a guild and somewhere to RP her. Might not be Evoker, but not all Dracthyr would be. Gives some diversity in approach too.
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Pissed me off whenever I saw a Sentinel/Warden/Druid and her Death Knight/Demon Hunter girlfriend just chilling it out in the the Silver Feather like they aren’t supposed to be damn outcasts unable to live proper lifes.
“Yea but they got a tower in Amirdrassil!”
Well, yea… On one of the farthest points removed from anything else in the village.
Yea, they tried to explain(and show) that Darkfallen Kaldorei, Demon Hunters, Death Knights and Warlocks are a part of Kaldorei society, but still outcasts to their society in general, but you think thats going to stop Druid#352345231 going to the Inn to have a good time with her Demon Hunter girlfriend #241241241?
And don’t you dare say anything about a Warlock/Demon Hunter/Death Knight or Darkfallen being there, because that would make you a meanie and not welcome there anymore!
Sorry, you triggered my peeve about DH/DK/Darkfallen and Warlock Kaldorei RPers 
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Thinking about the rankings (a bit much for a concept/guild I wouldn’t yet have time for, but hey-de-hoo!) have you come up with stuff you want to roll with so far or?
Just from musing;
- Captain/Scale-Captain
- Lieutenant
- Sergeant-at-Arms
- Talon
- Prospect
- Associate
Or something similar?
I hoyed ‘Recruit’ out as, ultimately if you’re looking at an All Dracthyr guild, there aren’t any Recruits - they’re all already trained soldiers. ‘Prospect’ as in prospective applicant, e.g. transferring from one of the established Weyrns, works though (I think)
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Perhaps ‘Freshscale’, with it’s name taken from Algeth’ar Academy maybe not to refer to all new members, but perhaps to those who have yet to see actual combat, such as those who previously didn’t serve a combat role upon re-awakening, or those newly-awoken who are yet to fully get back to their trained soldier status?
Maybe it’s a little too demeaning though.
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For a military set group, sounds about right to me 
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So for the questions, I don’t have a name yet. I am kind of struggling with that. Obisdian Wings? Obsidian Accord? It all doesn’t sound that great. So yeah struggling with that. I will work with the main factions, dragons and on our own terms. So all of it.
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You are officer material btw, just saying Kayt. Join us, join us. Haha it’s fine I know you’re busy. Thanks for the idea’s though, why Sergeant-at Arms and not just, Sergeant though?
Was meant to post this on my Dracthyr, oh well. No secret that it’s me.
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