Draenor and Tarren Mill question

WoW, by it’s nature, it’s a toxic game. Doesn’t matter the realm you play, you always will meet toxic people.
Due the fact that WoW is a highly competitive game and that there are addons that add more toxicity to the game (like Rio or dps meters), people will always be mean with other people. Even in real life, you see a lot of toxicity, so seeing this in a game is nothing new.
For example, once i joined a random guild. Then one day, a guy who just joined and started the game at that time, asked how is the deal with conquest points. If he starts mid season, can he get the previous weeks rewards or only the forward weeks. A officer answered that if he started mid season, he can’t get anymore the previous weeks rewards. Obviously that info was wrong, you can catch-up conquest points and get the weekly rewards until the current week. So i contradicted him in guild chat. What a mistake… : he started to curse me, call me idiot and noob and kicked me from guild.
So, people can get angry, toxic and abuse power, even when they are wrong.
People lost the sense of unity. They lost the sense of cooperative work and everything revolves on individuality. You won’t see people gathering to do Glory achievements, to help each other, to work as one for the common good of the community/guild, you won’t see kindness, and so on. You will only see people that do something only in exchange for profit (usually gold).
Even the forum is full of toxic people. If someone starts a post and complains about a issue, usually the first 2-3 replies are something like this: “if you don’t like the game, don’t play it” .
If you’re a solo player, without real friends that play the game, no matter the realm you join, you will have hard life. Yes, you will meet nice and kind people, but they are a very small percentage (maybe 10% at max).

Both realm are quite populated. So it doesn’t matter which one you join.

The ques are long in any realm you play. I transfered my char from Twisting Nether to Tarren Mill and now to Draenor. It doesn’t matter the realm you join, you will wait quite a while to join a que. For a HC dungeon que you can wait between 5 min and even 30 min. For LFR you wait at least 10-15 min until one hour. For arenas you wait around 5 min (these are the quickest ques). For random BG you wait between 10 min and even 1 hour. If you plan to que for a specific BG, especially the large ones, i suggest to give up. You can wait between 20-30 min to even 2hours. Basically the minimum time is during the evening time of the server and the maxed time is during “sleeping hours” (that’s between 00:00 and 08:00 morning).
This is caused by a huge decrease in total WoW population. I remember back in Legion i was frustrated that i can’t complete world quests because there where so many players doing the same quest. Now, in BFA, when you go on maps, for example Voldun or any map, you barely see 2-3 players doing the same quest. WoW lost in BFA at least 50-60% of it’s Legion population. You don’t need to be a nuclear scientist to see this.
So that’s why the ques are quite long.

Ty for answer

I mean Login queues. When you even cant connect to realm. About gameplay ques i know. I played about 8 year in WoW :slight_smile:

Why you transfered from there? Why from Tarren Mill to Draenor?

My “origin” server was Twisting Nether. I played on that servet for 3 years, almost the entire Draenor expansion and the begining of Legion (first patch). Then, my guild started to disband: some players left to other guilds, some left the game, etc. I took a break of WoW until last patch of Legion and during that time my only real friend who played WoW broke his relation with his girlfriend (both where playing in Twisting Nether) so he moved in Tarren Mill. When i came back i moved on Tarren Mill to play with my friend and after a while hr quitted game. So, fast forward, i came back to the game just few weeks ago, so i decided to start fresh, so that’s why i moved on Draenor. The choice was made only because is the highest populated server and no other reason.

Regarding log-in ques at a expansion start, Blizzard kinda fixed this issue in BFA. When BFA launched, i didn’t had to wait at all to join the game, although i was playing on Twisting Nether (the highest populated horde server at that timr). I think the same will happen with Shadowlands also. Due the fact that BFA was such a big failure, people, at the launch of expansion, especially the ones who quitted WoW, will wait, see reviews and opinions and then join the game.
People already where fooled once with the “new expansion hype” when BFA launched, so i think they will be more caucious this time and won’t flock to play the game in the first days of launch.
But we will see. Maybe i’m wrong and people will come back.
Another option is to transfer on a low populated server (anyway raids won’t unlock in the first weeks), play there a bit to farm the usual “expansion starts” (reputation, chain quests, story, bla bla) which anyway you do it solo 90% of it and then, after a few weeks join a higher populated server, when raids are launched.

Dentarg used to be dead and is hooked to Tarren Mill which makes it a great server to use if you want a name not taken already.

Kazzak has had a bad rep since LFR was introduced. Apparently we’re elitist achievement linking min maxing edgelord ragers who hate everyone and everything, especially people who aren’t using the correct mount and/or are below us on the dps meters.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I guess kazzak is the PvP server of PvE so PvEers get the glorious PvP community experience while smacking some dragons.

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