Dragonflight has no content - Why are we okay with this?

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Dragonflight has launched and it has been out for 3 months.

As WoW players we not only pay for an expansion, we also pay a monthly subscription for extra content.

Well then why is there basically no content to do in Dragonflight? Especially compared with the previous expansions? Mind you, a lot of people claim the reason we had so much content during Legion was because WoD was cut short… Well… Shadowlands was cut short… and we… don´t really have anything?

Let us compare dragonflight to Legion and BFA.

Zones

Dragonflight only has 4 zones on release.
Legion had 5 zones on release.
BFA had 6 zones on release.

So we lost an entire patch in Shadowlands… and… lost a zone in Dragonflight? You could try and make the argument we get a zone in .7, which will be 3-4 months after release. Okay then the game still has one zone less than BFA and the same amount of zones as Legion after 3-4 months.

Loser? Dragonflight

Dungeons

Dragonflight only had 8 dungeons on release. The general opinion seems to be that these are the worst Mythic dungeons ever released, and everyone is worried about player participation when the remaining M+ dungeons will be introduced into the S2 rotation.

Legion had 10 dungeons on release, yes, one was a re-make, so let´s call it 9!! They then introduced the mega dungeon after less than 2 months. Even if we also call the megadungeon a remake (fair enough), that is still 9 dungeons (some beloved) vs. 8 dungeons.

BFA had 10 dungeons on release. Many consider some of these dungeons to be the best Blizzard ever created. Freehold, Atal and Underrot are often mentioned as some of the best dungeons ever created.

Loser? Dragonflight

Raids

To be fair this is one is fairly equal between all.

DF had one raid on release.
Legion one raid on release.
BFA one raid on release.

Although again, the interesting thing is 7.1 for Legion was launched less than 2 months after the release, and what did that have? This introduced a new raid, with the trial of Valor raid

Loser? BFA and DF

Solo content

Dragonflight: Dragonflying has to be the biggest addition when it comes to this. Other than this DF Introduced community events which are hit a fish head for 15 minutes. Follow a frog whilst you zerg everything down.

Legion: Introduced Class order halls. Yes, you had cool class-identity quests for every single class in the game. This was a massive amount of solo content in the game. Every class had an artifact quest for every single spec also. Then of course there was Suramar. There was the introduction of WQs. There were mission table quests which could be used to farm money, gear and pets.

BFA: Other than having 6 zones to level in (which is solo content), also had two separate war campaigns for both factions. Had the entire area in Arathi to go do extra WQs, had the Warfront effort (I would call this solo content like LFR is solo content). There were also Islands, and you know what if you hated both warfronts and islands, fine, they were a large amount of content though, you can not deny that.

Shadowlands: Yep, I am using Shadowlands. You had 4 different covenants to do stuff with, do unique content for every covenant. They added a new kind of auto-battler mission table. Then they also added Torghast, which again, fine if you hate it, but it was a massive amount of content and some people did enjoy it.

Loser: Dragonflight. The lack of solo content is astounding. They added Dragonriding and the glyphs which take like less than an hour to get. There isn´t any real ´´meaty´´ solo content comparable to something like Torghast or class order halls at all. The closest is the renown system which grants story quests like the war-effort in BFA. I mean, they even REMOVED content from the game like mission tables. Fine if you hate them, but some people liked doing them, and they were not obligatory in any sense during Shadowlands. So not only has DF added little content, it straight up removed content we used to have every expansion post-WoD.

Conclusion

If you enjoy DF that is completely fine. I am not here to tell you not to enjoy it. What I do want to make clear is that this expansion, comparatively, has very little content to do. Given the fact that DF was made after a cut-content patch in Shadowlands (which we paid for, with our subscriptions), this is even more disappointing. The worst part is, some people, are claiming that this is good!! The fact that a lot of solo players are basically ´´done´´ after 1-2 months. That is supposed to be… good…? In an MMORPG? We should be demanding more from Blizzard, instead of trying to rationalize the incredulous lack of content. ´

Blizzard are basically going: We´ve listened the community, we hear you, we see you, you don´t want any content to do, so we will mercifully oblige

I will leave this comment here for the Blizzard apologists who basically want nothing to do in game, because congratulations, you won I guess.

There’s clearly a faction of posters here and for them the best version of wow is the one where there is nothing to do in the game, so they can log in and have nothing to do, declare they have done everything there is to do (which is nothing) and then log out with a hearty sense of accomplishment. and more power to you i guess, this expansion is totally for you.

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Patch 7.1: Return to Karazhan Now Live! (blizzard.com)

Just look at this. Legion was released August the 30th, Return to Karaz was released October the 24th or 25th

Nighthold raid was release already in the beginning of January for Legion with 7.1.5

Also so help me god if anyone calls ´´talents´´ ´´content´´.

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Talents?

/10 talents

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Mini raid. Also i wouldnt call that sorry excuse named emerald trashmare a raid. The only proper raid was Nighthold.

As for your sub argument: Cancel it. Return when you think there is more content to enjoy thats worth the buck.

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I’d rather have less content than bad forced content.

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I enjoy the content. I have a lot less time to play nowadays and appreciate the ‘casual vibe’ DF has. For hardcore/ no-life players I understand the issue.

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Or how about the secret third option: Blizzard could just create content with the money we pay them every month and not force people to do it?

Like, you realize this is an option right? We don´t have to be bootlickers for a billion-dollar company.

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People went from “omg its overwhelming too many things to do”… To “omg nothing to do”
Maybe if yall wouldnt binge play absolutely no lifing the game in the first weeks, things will be different

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There are actually a lot of things you can do in Drgonflight however you are often blindsided by the 3 major pillars of WoW. Mythic +, Raids and PVP.

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People are just not used to how things used to be before Legion, back when you had breathing room to do your own thing.
Personaly I’m loving it.

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DF is busiest expansion for me, never been more engaged before, all thanks to professions.

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My comment on a similar topic.

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I still have enough content left. It is fine as is.

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No you don’t. You pay for access to the game.

What are you even talking about? No content?
So how about the 4 zones filled with quests, events, secrets, 8 new dungeons, a new raid, weekly events/quests, a new season with new challenges. How is all of that ‘no content’? Please explain.

Well comparison skews the view of things.
If I compare my savings to that of a billionair, it’s not going to seem like a lot. While when I compare it to an average person, it will probably seem like I’m well of.

You should look at it on its own merits as well.
Comparing is fine, IF you look at the whole picture and not just cherry pick the things that support your view.

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PvP is something not really needed and M+ is the worst thing ever introduced in a MMORPG

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that a lie. they dont care. they ignore ptr forum and release ALL bugs from test server.
because the clowns pay subscription and full price like for high-end game anyway.
The main thing is to milk money as much as possible.

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The only content I currently do is Mythic+ and that’s only because of gear. I’m probably going to stop at 2500 once I’ve got the recolour. Cleared Heroic VotI weeks ago and also got the raid achievements so don’t do that anymore.

I wish there was something more to do that didn’t also seem grindy. I’d like to level up renown but it all seems super tedious, lengthy and disjointed. Honestly, I kinda miss the Daily Quest hubs like Quel’Danas from TBC.

The Elemental Overflow is just a needless grind aimlessly killing mobs. As was the Wrath/Sabellion stuff. None of it was interesting or challenging…

There’s also no solo-ing the most recent expansion content either. Some of BFA raids are soloable at lower difficulties but Shadowlands aren’t. I remember at the beginning of legion I was soloing some WoD stuff and all of MoP raids - was actually one of my favourite activities - especially when I hit bosses that put up a challenge (but were still doable with the right tactics etc).

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  1. BfA came out in 2018, when WoW was “only” 14 years old. WoW is now more than 18 years old. It’s an old game, people that played it originally are now in their 30s or even 40s, life changed. Each new expansion os gonna have less and less players and thus less and less content. It’s something that can not be changed in the end.

  2. Solo players (like me) are gonna play a month or two, and than quit in the next patch, content or no content. People that stick around all the time wanna hop into the game and play mythic+, raiding and pvp. They don’t want to have to grind anima or azerite. Essentially they wanted single player content removed, and Blizzard delivered.

  3. Soup event is meant to be hilatious (at it really is the first couple of times) and silly. And it is actually rewarding (800 to 1000 rep for 15 mins, yeah). You’re not meant to do Siege of Dragonbane keep more than once a week, meaning 5 mins per week. Grand Hunts too.

  4. DF has only 4 zones, but they are really large cause of Dragonriding, and empty too, Dragonriding again. Zones in other expansions were much smaller.

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That you want to do. Let’s not forgot that bit.

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In my opinion mythic+ is no content, it’s a stupid hamster wheel only done by people for gear. Remove the gear and no one plays it anymore.

Solo player like also gear no question - but most of there time they do quests, crafting, farming, collecting things (pets, toys, transmog) and dont play only for gear.

Introduce a clever housing with new professions, recipes, housing items to craft, followers for the houses, etc - none of them will cancels his sub for a long, long time

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