Dragonflight will be the expansion that killed World of Warcraft

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WoW’s just not a game worth investing time in anymore. As long as a game doesn’t try to force you to play, I think people like investing in one game, building a great account, doing all the things, collecting all the stuff.

WoW’s lost that. Most likely it’s a combination of reasons that have added up together, but at the moment most people just don’t care about maxing out another rep, getting BiS, getting a +1 mount and so on. Who really cares anymore? Many people are fine with raiding once a week, maybe a few M+ casually, getting to about 420-440 and that’s it.

When you lose the desire to invest into a game, the greater bulk of side content and completionism content suddenly becomes uninteresting and you find yourself unable to put your finger on why exactly, after all that content is the same as or even better than in the past. When a game as a whole isn’t worth time investment, it turns a lot of content into “eh, what’s the point”, but when you love a game, a lot of quite basic content feels worth it as another step to having that great account in that great game you’re enjoying.

WoW won’t die and DF is “good” but it does feel like it lost that spark.

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go play an actual dead game and then come back and tell us wow is dead

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WoW always had drop in player numbers in the middle of expansion, then increase in final patches

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Dragonflight is in a perfect storm.

It comes straight after a universally panned expansion, so many players quit. It is important here to realise that these people would have quit if we had the same systems as in Shadowlands because they quit in Shadowlands long before they ever knew what Dragonflight would be like. Further, due to having 2 failed expansions in a row, that is to say 4 years of bad gameplay, they were just done. No excitement.

This of course lowers the size of the playerbase and it has nothing to do with Dragonflight itself.

Dragonflight then adds on top of that by not requiring you to log in every day. Now, early versions of WoW did this and they didn’t die, so why should this one? Well, it really shouldn’t. It’s that simple. And it mostly isn’t, though some things are dead. Boring things, I should add. If you have a system and remove the reward and players just despise it, well… it probably wasn’t that good.

Then you add on top of that with a further breakdown of the social aspects of the game and a massive resurgence of Classic due to its levelling.

And here we are.

The queue times you’re seeing are due to a lack of healers. This is an entirely separate but no less serious topic.

Look, if I have the choice between playing the game less yet playing the parts of it I like more regardless, or playing all the time but I don’t enjoy my time, I’ll choose the former. The latter will burn me out, and it did. It did for millions, and Dragonflight is suffering under that.

What Blizzard needs right now is something that’s particularly exciting and brings players back without dropping the things that make people like Dragonflight over Shadowlands. It cannot survive another Shadowlands.

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Yeah it’s dead I think. All queues take ages, Valdrakken deserted, etc.

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Everything you have written is false.

Sorry, you’re not enjoying Dragonflight. It’s not perfect, but it’s still a banger.

If you want to blame something for killing WoW. 9.2 was the death of WoW.

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I’m sincerely starting to believe that people play not the same wow that i play

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Yeah same. Although it’s interesting to hear the same verse every expansion. It’s where WoW dies. How many times did people say it already?

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Well at least 6 or 7 of my friends who quit wow for good after BFA are back now and playing the game in the current format and loving it so dragonflight has been a huge step in the right direction dragonflight is 10/10 for me

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I bet queue are long in marginal mode known as PvP, that could just be removed from the game for all its worth

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DF is still suffering from the bad experience that was SL. That expansion turned alot of people off the game IMO and it will take time to recover.

Also I think its only natural that this game is winning points for being more casual friendly, supporting people not playing every day.
Alot of WoW players are like myself…we have been playing this game for over a decade and in that time our lives have changed and maybe we cant devote the kind of time to it that we used to.
Doesnt mean we love it any less, just that real life concerns take priority now.

Personally I love this expansion. Im blown away by the story telling and I adore the themes. Its def a 10/10 for me!

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Seem to remember the same being said for every expansion tbh
Edit can i have your gold

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oh no. this is so sad :frowning: it should have lasted longer. why did dragonflight have to ruin it :sob:

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It’s all part of Jailer’s Master Plan.

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I mean i agree with u, everywhere u look, and a prime example of this is Asmongold. While he does say “I have other things i want to do” as a reason for not playing wow, we all know hed no life it just like he has if the game was “ACTUALLY GOOD”. Why hes so popular and became so big is because he in someway represents a lot of wow players, and somewhat how we feel. Atleast the CORE players that used to play wow no matter what. When people as die hard as him, says “dragonflight is good” meanwhile doesnt touch it after the first 2 weeks, i feel like the words lack any meaning. WE ALL KNOW, if Arthas was brought back and they retconned everything, and went a different direction, hed be back no lifing it for a few more years.

Not to say that asmon is the only example of this. Bellular has been making videos for ages i watched him in WOD a lot, his tone this expansion has felt like “wow is good, this might be the thing that makes it do well in the future, it comes off more as copium than anything else”. When u need to make up excuses as to why u should play wow nowadays thats a pretty obvious disclaimer as to why u shouldnt.

Im the same way, i cant put my finger on what exactly, ive played since Wotlk. I had periods where i was burnt out and just left and then came back. I played for like a year then quit for like 2 years or smthn then it repeated etc. But i came back at the end of shadowlands and had a lot of fun even though i understood the issues of SL. I was excited to play wow again, DF around the corner, and i nolifed wotlk classic release. After 2 months of DF i started playing Hardcore which game me more positive vibes than retail did. Which is VEEEERY strange. I never liked leveling, but somehow i enjoy leveling in classic because it felt like it mattered. I felt rewarded. As soon as official servers were announced i quit because i knew all i did on that character would be obselete the second the servers come out.

I pretty sure the majority of players agree on this, why play if ure not rewarded?
Would anyone play league if Ranked wasnt a thing?
U dont have to make the game omega casuals for players to invest into wow, u just have to make it good and very cool. In league u have to level to 30 to do ranked, yet thousands if not millions of people do it even tho its anoying af, because they know the reward is being able to play ranked later on and feel rewarded when u reach a new milestone.

Stop coping that most people dont play to be rewarded its not true. Look at all the big games rn, the most popular ones are the rewarding games. People play CSGO because its fun simple, but hard to master, and yet u have the carrot of if u actually get good enough u might actually be able to make a living off it. Wether it be a pro player, or playing the market with skins to fininacially better ur life. Theres incentive to doing things.

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So the business taxtic of overpricing a product dramatically, to half in price to cause FOMO around buying it business tactics went over ur head eh?

No they did this intentionally. Because the biggests fans will overpay, rhe others will buy it thinking their getting a “bargin”

Except last time the game did demand this, he litterally quit the game because he said the list of things to do felt so out of reach he wasnt interested in even trying.

Maybe consider hes not the same gamer he was a decade ago?.

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Everyone should do themselves a favor and completely ignore what Asmondouche says pretty much by default.

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Nah thats not true, look at him. Hed run at the chance if wow was actually good but it isnt and it hasnt been for quite some time. Legion was decent but even then it wasnt that innovative for its time. Weve had subpar expansions for almost 10 years. The guy even plays anime games. Lets not cope, hed run. After years on years trying to tell blizzard what they need to do and yet nothing changed, u just get fed up and stop caring. Him quitting wow was the best decision ever. They didnt care about his time investmernt at all so why should he care.

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Blizzard ignoring Azmondouche?

Man, I might give Blizzard more money.

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Still blaming past expansions like BFA & SL is just an excuse. The game is suffering from its general direction.

The game is losing old players and not attracting new players, simply because it is not fun.

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