Kill first boss and leave? 30 min deserter.
Kill second boss and leave? 30 min deserter.
Kill third boss and leave? Believe it or not 30 min deserter.
If for any reason you don’t kill final boss of the dungeon you’re in you now get deserter. Started same time as these hp value bugs.
I imagine that’s intentional to punish all those guys who leave the dungeon after whatever boss they wanted.
No it’s definitely not intentional because if your group decides not to continue or cannot kill final boss the first two ? people to leave still get deserter. It also never worked this way in OG Cata. Furthermore, it’s not outlined in patch notes any where if it were to be intentional.
w8 since when? I never leave dungeons but I remember people being able to leave after first boss before the patch last week no?
I noticed it yesterday when a group I was healing was wiping on trash in Vortex Pinnacle between second and third boss because no one would interrupt so I just left cause I was in more than 15 mins so thought I would just requeue. Instead 30 min deserter after spending 20 mins in the dungeon.
I wanted to double check so I logged on an alt and intentionally left after first boss of another dungeon and also 30 min debuff.
have you tested if you get deserter if you fake dc ?
if not well then it will be a lot of fun causing intentional wipes forcing others to leave first 
and before baddies rejoice - it only means people will be a lot more harsher with kicking for underperforming - so they will only hurt themselves.
That’s how you get vote kicked. Then you can enjoy your 30 minutes deserter debuff.
I am yet to witness a kick for any other than afk or intentionally trolling. So overall, this is a good change.
It’s still going to be faster to wait for the debuff to go away rather than to do deadmines with a terrible group.
In the meantime people can just do a dungeon on their alts.
All this does is penalize people who need to leave the dungeon after the group falls apart.
to be completly honest - i would still rather take 30 minut debuf and do some panda remix then carry someone or do hallfs of origination so dont care
I have never since the launch of classic cata not been able to finish a HC dungeon. How do you guys manage that?
maybe they do runs late in week when all good players are long valor capped?
lol what with all the HoT hate ,its just as bad as the rest of the dungeons in cata
This is the greatest decision ever.
its also very decent trolling - because noothing of such is in game.
earlier i left 1 dugneon after first boss because healer really really stuggled and it were 4 guildies so no chance to kick him . so i left
no deserter
Most idiotic change , hostage of groups where dumb people ninja loot
Too lenient. Should be an hour which increases each time.
remove it; complete nonsense! If people dont like the dungeon they are in they should be able to leave! Very simple
Instead of punishing those that leave address the actual issue here which obviously is lack of extra search options such as; We should be able to upvote 3 dungeons and downvote up to 3 dungeons! This would ACTUALLY ADDRESSS the issue instead of punishing people FOR NO DAMN REASON!
We have this in StarCraft 2 for a reason; the past is a good place to look when you’re trying to solve problems we ALREADY figured out a solution to!
Then some dungeons would never be ran and people gearing up wouldnt be able to get gear they need. Also, this option already exists, just select the specific dungeons you want. If you dont like certain dungeons, then dont get upset when random puts you in it.
This whole “me, me, me” mentality is an issue with older versions of the game. It is still very much a MMO. When you leave, or others leave, the group has to then sit and wait for replacements when they’ve already waited in a queue. The debuff needs increased.
If you can’t kill a boss in a Cata HC then maybe just unsub?
They are incredibly easy.
people are replaced imidiately
only ones entitled are peopel who belive that others own them anything and will boost them for free just because they want to.