So I am leveling on my alt and having a fun time, doing dungeons as a healer.
Had a tank in The Blood Furnace that just kept running through the entire dungeon, only to die by all the trash at the end at the first boss.
We wiped because I had no chance to heal it as level 45, giving me a deserter buff from being kicked and I cannot play for another 30 minutes because a tank decided to pull an entire dungeon he wasnt capable of tanking.
And then the victim gets punished by a deserter kick.
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How did he get to first boss with pulling all the trash all the way to that room or do you mean he died before 1st boss room?
It was in The Blood Furnace, not Shattered Halls as Iāve said first.
We went into the dungeon, he started by just pulling everything from the entrance up to the room before the boss room, getting annihilated and kicked me for it.
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Yeah itās annoying I created a topic on why time walking is not fun because people rush too much from start too finish and pull everything in between expecting everybody to keep upā¦
I got a comment yesterday from someone in a dungeon telling me āhey Druid wake upā while I was simply struggling to keep running towards the freaking tank because he kept running out of range of my healing spellsā¦and I am lucky I still have some instant cast healing spells.
Not sure why blizzard wants to punish healers tbh. They should give only to dps that buff if they get kicked.
About level though, it is scaled, I think? And some scaling is pretty horrible. It was probably for tank also if he died like that
It is also hard as a DPS. I will often get kicked on a caster for āno dpsā but itās because I can only fire of a few casts.
Lets not gaslight people into thinking this is a Blizzard/healer issue, This is all on Tank players.
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Most edited by moderator behaviour Iāve seen, holding the group intentionally, tend to be healers or especially tanks because they know people are less willing to kick them if it means having to wait⦠
Looks like the old jokes about healers thinking they are the center of the universe are still true
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So, which body of authority has designed tanks to be practically immortal in leveling content?
Do you think, that if pulling more than two packs at once, the tank would guaranteed die, then the tanks would not pull more than two packs at a time?
No ,they would still pull and blame others.
It happens at the start of every new expansion.
No role should have immunity from the deserter buff or vote kicks. That is ridiculous.
Itās unfortunate if an individual is removed from a dungeon when itās something beyond their control. If you heal you get aggro, if you donāt heal, people die. But itās clearly a tank issue in this instance so Iām not sure why the group punished the wrong player. Lack of knowledge maybe?
I know if Iām in any of those pull everything non stop groups Iām not going to hit/cast anything until the tank stops because then I just get aggro. They often donāt stop and I just stick to the tank as best I can.
That is quite the projection. Or maybe you personally know the majority of the tank playerbase.
I think I will go with the former.
I do plenty of LFR/LFD/TW groups.
My experiences, while anecdotal, are acurate.
You donāt really have to wait anymore, unless you play in dead hours, or if itās a niche Chromie time queue. You get priority and most times there are enough tanks and healers queued that youāll get a replacement.
I agree with Chronormi, kicking a tank or healer is no big deal. You just get the next one in the queue. Itās pretty fast.
No more like some tanks are in this situation
I repeat, Blizzard missunderstood what is difference left or kicked.
You are not supposed to get deserter if you got kicked coz you can abuse voteckick for fun which it is happening. You want to leave and you get deserter if it is your choice so it is ok. The question is why Blizzard approves to abuse votekick? I dont understand why they refuse to solve this BIG issue!!!
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Because before the vote kick gave you deserter those who wanted out of the group simply sat down and did move or started to mass pull everything to get kicked so they can re que.
Those people abused the system and the only thing to fix that was to apply deserter for kicks too
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Game is too easy.
Thatās how most people want it, according to posts around here.
If a tank doesnāt pull, heāll get urged. I was in Classic (protection warrior isnāt exactly good at large pulls), and just this weekend (as healer) I had a tank tell us that heās going to try and go fast and see how it goes. We all told him not to sweat - and had a great time. He was a Classic newbie.
If you want to play dungeons, play
- Classic (Cata/MoP is already somewhat rushy iirc)
- M+
- exclusively with friends
For reference, as a level locked (=> good gear) 35 lock I could nearly solo Halls of Origination packs. I could definitely duo them (with a priest or something).