I have to say that dungeon gear is bad for playing as a tank role. I play mainly guardian and don’t want crit but there is not a single neck without crit and versa o.O. And alot of versa pieces have also crit on it. I currently have only 9% haste and mastery because if that 
and 18% crit.
I suck at pvp but it looks like this is the only way for decent tank gear 
What are my fellow tank mates think about dungeon gear for tank role?
Secondary stats DR now, having 1 item without your best stats probably isn’t that big of a deal.
With that said, HoA has a Haste + Mastery neck, and the Mists one is 2:1 ratio of Mastery to crit, which doesn’t seem bad.
2nd boss of CN drops a Mastery + Hase neck too, should be an easy farm for you as a 220 ilvl tank.
PVP is a better way to target specific pieces though. Even if there were several dungeon necks it could take forever to get it.
you don’t need insane gear to push keys on guardian .
but yes its stupid , m+ gear is bad
gear dont matter after 220 ilvl for a guardian .
i have a 213 neck pvp vers , feets , ring vers
do somes rbg or go raid
just go vers ilvl >>>>>> and try to get some haste
get vers/haste neck , ring for pvp .
you don’t lose much stats if its 213 or 226 because there is no primary stats , you will lose like 20-30 vers who care
PVP has some of the best gear for tanking dungeons, which is nuts. This site will give you an idea of how the top players are gearing Guardian Druid - Mythic+ - Subcreation
thx for the link looks interesting and your recommendations.
i think i will replace my neck. have one from halls but sadly i am already on valor cap 
I am currently also not have a great cloak there is one with hast versa. Do you know what % of haste is recommended as guardian?
Mastery Haste neck, but I don’t know what stats you are after.
That one drops in HoA.
There is though?
You don’t want dodge rating ? Bit of crit is good ,especially early in expansion while ilvl is low and you don’t get enough dodge from agi.
Crit is ok but versa is just so much better. Extra healing. Extra damage. And less damage taken. I would much rather be able to get hit by a tank ability, take some damage and survive rather than roll a dice of whether I will be nuked into oblivion or dodge and take 0 dmg.
Please link me double versa item.
What do you mean double versa item? I can link you all the conquest Pvp gear which is basically 60% versa 40% anything else. The best gear by far for a tank comes from rated pvp atm.
He have versa on neck 
but he wants haste instead of crit ,and i simply said that crit is not bad in season one until we get better dodge from high ilvl agi in later seasons.
While leveling 50-60 dodge rating went from 25% to 13 % , and that is super low
that not alone the whole Gear system of M+ is Fail, in pvp if you can get 2400 Rating you can buy 233 Weapons in M+ the Drop loot is Restricted to 210 why? its not fair its ridiculous.
While crit is the least desirable stat, it is not THAT bad in M+.
In terms of DPS, if you have a lot of haste, crit gives more DPS than haste because haste would DR. It does more DPS than mastery in most cases.
I terms of defense, unlike raids where dodge is unreliable and bosses hit like a truck, dodge is more valuable when tanking multiple targets that don’t hit very hard which is the case in dungeons. So the dodge from crit has some value there.
So it doesn’t hurt you to have some crit.
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