Try the +21, if it’s not going to be timed leave (if not you someone else will 100% leave because timing those runs is the only thing that matter at that level), you will keep the same dungeon key but on a -1 level, repeat until you get to a level where you can time it. Worse case scenario you “wasted” some time but got some experience and know what to expect, best case you skipped some M+ levels. Oh also if you happen to finish that run having a depleted 21 or 20 is better than having a timed 18 regarding sign ups and invites.
I know but why would i do this instead of queueing ? takes a lot longer it’s meaningless. what if i need +20 BRH after doing +19WM and i get +20 murozond
countless problems here and repeating it is not the solution i don’t see your reasoning why a finder shouldn’t happen ? we already play with random people anyway and if you think the group you got is bad you can play with premades or queue again ? literally no downs to this.
there is no big difference between a 18 and 20 tbh
i dont know how hard you struggled at the 17, but when you did it +2 then you should be able to it on 20 in time, thats no troll comment
with pugs i NEVER get an invite to 2 levels above my experience so that’s how i used to play. if i did 17 i’ll apply to 18 . i spent days trying to get an invite to +17 after i +2 timed a +16 key. PUGS are horrible.
You have a weird progression path my dude, I just spammed my keys till I got them all +20. I think it only took me like 1-2 days to get all the portals of very casual play timewise once I managed to push my own key to a +20 level.
Exactly why you should do your own key. Every single PuG out there wants XP, get that XP by doing your own keys, then you can freely apply to those keys you used to get declined.
I mean do not take this as an offence but why would I pick you over someone who has timed it at the level I have listed or above.
Also you can always join a community and make some friends to run keys with. I run both solo and pre-made and I really don’t need to explain the advantages of premade.
Stop caring so much about depletes and just go again if a key depletes. It’s not some end of the world disaster if your key depletes.
I pushed my key to +20 quickly as well that’s how i managed to do a +20 in the first place and thanks to vault’s help too. but after one it’s hard to get all the portals.
this is the problem tho . people don’t apply to keys if the lead hasn’t done that level either. i didn’t have this issue thankfully but idk how many times i got the lead to form a group to help others. pug people are weird. that’s why we need a finder they can still use premade groups if they really want to. i’m still wating to hear a reason why we don’t need a finder ?
start pugging elahri and then come back please there’s a reason why you play with premades now i now you used to pug. you know it sucks so please stop defending this horrific system
Those are pugs.
wow you had two pug keys
I mean, you can just check the keys I’ve done. If vathlauss is not in them, it’s a pug.
it doesn’t matter after you push with premades …
Dude I listed and timed one of my 20s this season without having any previous score on the weekly affix (fort/tyr). Had the group ready to go in under 10 min.
And my example is very “lol boosted sus”, if you have a 17++ you shouldn’t have any trouble.
Also I noticed you have KSH AD and BrH but not the actual KSH (2500 rating). Focus on doing the dungeons you have lowest until you reach 2500 (mine popped at the +17-19 mark). Most people care about your overall score than your specific dungeon experiance (its a mistake but why not exploit it).
We’re not a full premade, often it’s just me and vathlauss duoing and pugging 3 dps. Sometimes we’re 3 people(in which case I’m DPSing because the other guy only plays healer), sometimes 4. Never do we have a full premade.
People really underestimate how much and how often just 1 guy can screw up a run XD.
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Yeah, we pugged a frost mage for WM +23. He proceeded to use glacial spike on the MC’d target and one shot the MC’d target with it. Then did it again after we ressed. Then we wiped due to the fight taking too long. Then we tried again and he killed the MC’d target with glacial spike again.
I was just like “Do we just go out and go 22? Don’t invite a frost mage next time”, just to be sure we don’t get a glacial spike assassin again.
Deplete should be removed for lower level keys imho, then maybe some people might just be brave enough to try without the timer there to intimidate them.
Oh I completely destroyed an Everbloom +19 week one XD. All the berserkers just kept jumping on me and one shoting me. Then I had a very weird AD +20 when on a fort week tank wanted to CC the add on Priestess and a moonkin kept breaking the CC, wiped and just did it without the CC (which is easier imo). And then I have countless stories of a “friend” of mine that had~3k io last season (somehow) which is the absolute worst player I have ever seen, we keep inviting him to our runs because he is our 5th for the full premade and he manages to brick them every single time singlehandedly ( I am talking about using frost nova on mobs in saguine levels here, it’s insane I call tell you stories XD).
EDIT Ok I will continue because I need to get this out of me. On Tyr he literally blinked into us with the circle while we were soaking and wiped us and on Morchie he ran over our Healer and the other DPS with his add because he, again, blinked through them. Also he keeps body pulling because and I quote “I cannot stand still, because I am used to PvP”, guy has never done a rated arena and just does random duels in front of Org and World PvP (I literally have a higher honor level than him and I only did the Legion “PvP” quests for marks).
funny story from my side…i did last week with my blood dk a 22 dht and a few 20 on other dungeons, but i got for 30-40 min no inv for doti rise 17, its that crazy, so i can understand you
there are 2 reason’s for this 1 dungeon’s are overly complicated and 2 the timer both are pushing ppl to the limits, what take’s the fun part completely out, dungeons once where a fun group thing now its more a thing for a tiny part of the player base, even at the lower mythic+ parts the demands are just ridiculous.
I like doing it manual and I will explain why. I use premade group filter addon which has enough filters. As a tank I will put the following settings:
- Search for groups without tank
- Search for blood lust & battle resurrection
- hide the groups which declined me
- sort by item level & rating
- Search for specific dungeons & levels
After all the sorting is finished I have the option to choose a specific group which I like from the blizzard’s list.
Lets say I am doing Dark Heart Ticket and there are 2 groups with combat resurrection. The 1st one has paladin lets say and the 2nd one has a warlock. I will choose always the warlock for the skip.
In Galakrond I will search for a rogue specifically. In Murozond for priest/rogue.
If Blizzard can’t implement to search by class as a setting for the queue then the system will be worthless. I’d be happy enough if premade group finder is just added as permanent in game feature.