Hey! i’m looking for win/win situation, cause Xp-off player cant get battleground pop without planned it. For example in legion there was the item level system, what made us all equals. And that made Battlegrounds balanced.
We “Twinks” didn’t like that but would be better than no battlegrounds at all.
And we give u money. Easy and balanced.
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I prefer not to meet twinks in any form. They are literally garbage level of players carried by gear. Nah ty
We already have that on max level. Pveers all over above 2k MMR just because of gear.
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Templates were awful - no thanks.
They were still open to manipulation, more so at the lower levels, Remember a “A Few links of Chain” or the Level 100 Rogue head piece that could be farmed on a 19? I know I did it.
What the answer is at any bracket 39 and over is I have no idea to get XP off queues to work as intended.
19’s queue WSG specific, if you queue random the queue never pops, if you queue WSG it does …
70’s have organized Wargames or queue skirms, and others just XP on / XP off at pop.
Well would made battlegrounds much more Quality than op low level classes with full enchanted heirlooms oneshotting non enchanted levelers. its never ending whining from normal levelers, so its my opinion to fix all whining.
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If you say so …
still with ilvl 100 head + neck + stuff on lvl 19 u did 90% less dmg to others than now : )
Tell me more about this, how would it be more quality when twinks could farm the rest of the players?
There were some really big differences in some of the brackets.
19’s - Twinks still had a distinct advantage
29’s - Have played maybe 4 29 BG’s since WoD - can’t comment
39’s - Most I got too was 12% over template.
60’s - I only play at 60 - They were fun in Legion - and balanced
70’s - Distinctly average
79 - Broken, Template value was 184 - My 79 lock was at 306 plus 6% from using a Wand
99 - Broken - template value was 590 - My 99 DK was at 739
Without a re-think and being able to customize the stat weights inside them I would not go back to them
I’ll bite.
Think you’ll find the biggest advantage Twinks had wasn’t actually gear ( in a lot of cases ) but queuing in groups and making an effort to play as a group. If you think templates were a balancing factor your wrong, my 19 H Pala had an 82% WR in Legion
Seriously do you think people won’t play throw away twinks in the lower brackets or at 60 - 69?
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Wasn’t looking for a fallout - I just have a different opinion about templates and their effectiveness.
Man I even had to level my last XP On toon between 100 and 110 to 110 this week in BG’s just to get some regular PvP >.<
Templates sucked, and I dont wanna be unseparated if I’m perfectly honest, at least from a 19s perspective. The quality of games when everyone is there for the same reason, and is at last somewhat prepared for that is just so much better than the drivel we saw throughout legion. I quit twinking at the end of WoD because of the change and I’m coming back because they reverted it. What I want Blizzard to do is fix the queue system so that games actually pop when there are enough players queued, not just when there are significantly more than enough queued.
I think a lot of the none 19s twink community could probably field a playerbase for semi consistent pops, and then advertise / build their community from there, IF the queues actually worked as they should.
The answer to twinking is simple: stop crying about people enchanting their levelling gear.
Twinks at the beginning of BfA were broken because some characters could get the frag grenade at lvl19 - that was fixed. Others were broken because level scaling wasn’t implemented correctly, so on-use and proc items were stupidly overtuned. Level 49’s had an on-use to deal 1.5k AoE damage around them, which could crit. Sul’thraze had a huge proc rate and would proc for 700-900 damage, Wraith Scythe had a 1-1 spell power ratio, so my lvl49 enhancement shaman had a chance on hit to steal 700-800 health.
The difference now is just having potions and some extra health. That makes healers stronger because the proc items that nuked them are gone and healers werent reliant on any of them.
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This is exactly the same as back in Wrath though, when twinking was first attacked. People claimed back then that twinks just wanted to stomp new players, and that twinks ruined the game for new players.
So what did we get? Blizzard did away with the twinks and instead, cheap alt levellers used their heirlooms to stomp new players and ruin the game for them.
They also reduced the amount of damage it does from ~500 to ~200, if you have the Frag Belt it still works but it’s not as effective. Probably better visiting the AH for F.R.I.E.D bombs and Saltwaters if that’s your thing.
Still find it strange that Saltwater pots ( 50% increased damage for x seconds ) are acceptable and not nerfed at all but items that have an on use or on proc have been capped in BG’s to 50% ( iirc ) of their PvE values.
Anything can be better than not playing BGs at all
Which brackets do you play? 19’s seem to be active, judging by my friends list.
I’d assume 20 Vets are - as they are in the levellers que.
20 F2P will always bolster the 20 -29 queue
70’s have been doing regular Wargames, but the guy that was driving them has stopped playing ……
Other than that it will be a question of joining communities and getting your friends to queue, use XP off dot com.
If you do queue don’t queue random, the queue won’t pop even if there’s enough bodies in theory to make a BG. Queue a specific BG, WSG / AB etc depending how many people you can find to queue with.
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