Elemental shaman’s flame shock should be cannot dispellable, atleast the effect for lava bursts can crit, that remaining should enough. But the present working of flame shock isn’t good enough, always instant dispelled by many classes/specs and our dmg is almost only lava burst mostly, if flame shock isn’t there we are almost dealing negative dmg what is rly a big problem , our dmg and all our staff as elemental is working around the flame shock or atleast the fix crit lava burst, so here is 3 solution for this problem:
1.) Make the dispell backlash so high for dont even consider any spec for dispell it (100k atleast or 150k instant dmg to the player who HAS BEEN DISPELLED not for the dispeller healer.
2.) Make flame shock crit effect for lava burst a remaining debuff on target what is cannot dispellable.
3.) JUST MAKE FLAME CANNOT DISPELLABLE AND PROBLEM SOLVED
no, magical effects should remain as so and be dispelled as this is called counter play, next you would have destro locks come asking havoc not decursable and so on
game dont need become any stupider than it already is in df
and there already is the little knock when you dispel it, good healers and hybrids with dispel remove it from self and team and this is check if people have dispel binded and brains between ears
shuffles are full of garbage healers and hybrid dps who never dispel anything
Make Ele hardcast again
you never played ele as i think from your words, ele sham’s lava bursts only deal dmg real iF its crit, if flame shock isn’t on target your lava bursts just never existed in dmg meter, ele’s all dmg almost around on flame shock dot/debuff on target, if no debuff no dmg from lava burst no dps/dmg to enemy
I play rham and it has the exact same mechanic on crit and proc and what you desgribed can be said of every class
You removed bleed like flayed shot and you removed his ks procs, you decurce havoc and destro wont cleave and so on and so on
Its playing with thought instead just pressing w like so many these days
you dont get it, i literally cannot do dmg without flame shock on target(s), dont just a plus dmg, its literally the main problem with ele, if no flame shock no dmg from lavaburst and no kill, but i see you cannot understand this so i dont will go on with you, i have better things than answering to a …
Shaman
- Elemental
- Volcanic Surge now increases the damage of Lava Burst by 45% (was 55%) and Lightning Bolt / Chain Lightning by 50% (was 35%).
They’re trying.
tell me how to play against a healer priest, retri and mm or dk as ele sham they all easily dispelling my flame shock or dk with immune i cannot even put on him flame shock until ams is gone, priest has 2 dispell + mass dispell, ggg hunter can feign death dispell himself, and more more dispells at other classes/specs, dispell should be only delete buffs or heal dot
Or just make lava burst fix crit and just buff its dmg a little if flame also on the target that could be a good move.
Hunter dispels your flame shock every 30 seconds. How many flame shocks can you reapply in a 30 sec span?
yes, all my arena time is just spamming flame shock because dispells and not doing anything else ?
Can you not see what else you can do to get value APM if they just perma dispel FS?
Lightning bolts or chain on 2 melee to get Mael? Hex and windsheer to disrupt ?
I’m not trying to troll or flame just giving suggestions =]
All arenas I play against Ele, they spam three instant abilities with no counter, while doing super high damage with no risk. On top of that they’ve gotten a pretty good dispel protection, which was even recently made baseline. You’re speaking as if Ele has any issues (re)applying flame shock, especially when you have multiple ways of doing so.
Flame shock damage is pretty hefty too, to the point of dealing as much, or more damage, than SWP and VT combined.
eles are not doing bad in the game, i think the one who doesnt get it is you, the problem is on you if your not able make elemental work right now when its one of the best performing dpses of the season
I’m not sure what you’re meant to do about ele, cleansing doesn’t seem to do much and leaving it up doesn’t seem to do much either. Had two shamans run at me and there was nothing I could do, only spell the dps cast was hex and stormkeepers / lasso 
I usually agree with your posts, but Ive noticed you mentioned ele earlier and now again and you seem quite biased against it.
Ele Lava Surge mechanic is core to the class and it has been since MoP. The difference is in MoP, Lava Burst dealt much higher damage relative to the general HP so it was (rightfully so) nicknamed the rng death machine. It was the most powerful ele has ever been.
Since then, it had up and downs depending on season, DF S1 it was much better than S2.
Ele is not bad by any means, but the damage it does is mostly pad. Even the devs commented that it lacks finishing power, but their rebalancing has been weird, so to speak.
Flame shock and Lava burst are top damage, but you dont actually get to kill stuff that often in arena.
Your comment about hardcasting is interesting because there are 2 hardcasting builds: Ele Blast build, which died with the crit change, and Volcanic Surge build.
Volcanic Surge has been buffed several times now, and there is a build involving stacking crit and cheesing with Primordial+Ascendance, at the cost of playing basically zero haste and not doing anything for 2 minutes. The build can absolutely 100-0 you and it makes up for some funny ytube clips, and yet no high rated shaman is playing it.
The reason for that is simple. As much as I would love Ele to be a hardcasting powerhouse, hardcasting is simply too difficult in modern arena since ele lacks the self tools to help create casting windows.
Without that, ele remains a dampener spec.
I think its a gameplay issue honestly if in 3s you don’t top damage as ele shaman you are doing something wrong doesn’t matter flame shock dispel or not
Ah yes because being top on meter means automatic win these days?
With that logic aff should be no1 spec in the game but it really isnt now.
Ele also isn’t a mage with immunities and sick mobility which covers their squishiness or a Warlock with spam cc, big dmg absorbs and passive tankiness. You can only ever play hardcast build when you have a really good team, especially healer, which/who enables you to play like this. You’re giving up so much for volcanic surge build and now after they nerfed it I doubt that it’ll be of any use except in BG’s maybe…
My bias against Ele is two thing:
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they don’t hardcast anything. Maintaining high dps basically spamming 3 instant abilities makes it feel like Ele doesn’t risk anything. I think Eles should required to hardcast more
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flame shock deals way too much damage. I’m playing an actual dot/rot spec and I must confess that I find senseless the amount of damage it provides, when the spell main purpose used to be getting Lava Burst procs, with the ability itself not dealing the kind of damage it does today.
That being said, Ele is far from being the most problematic spec right now, that’s for sure.
Ele is also currently able to one shot targets with the right star alignment.
As for hard casts you’re talking to a SP, a spec which has no mobility, all of our cc is dispellabe, all our abilities are now hardcast, we have no gap openers and no proper way to snare targets. As ele at least you have knock back, snares, roots, totems which you can teleport enemies away from you, ghost form, a gap opener with ghost etc.
Melee has become a huge problem over the years with their toolkits and mobility needs to be toned down (but we all know that won’t happen)
While I agree with that, I think it is more Lava Burst that deals way too much damage. After the rework its often 40-45% of their damage. And it is all just proc base.
From my perspective, they have become the most overtuned spec lately!