If you release 30.10. changes, you kill elemental shaman… nerfs is fatal… why shaman spec dont do someone who play a game and know what to doo?
Elemental after rework and LR nerf be in good position, why he cant do damage like other big dmg specs? In single target we still dont have too good damage, avg and you nerf it??
Aoe is huge, i expect 5-10% nerf not 30-40% like you doo now
Rework push all elementals to recraft zheir gear to mastery and you nerf it to hell and make it again usless after one week?
yeah if they make all these changes i have a feeling ele will be dead
i kinda expected a nurf to ascendance but they are reducing our damage in other ways to, our sustained dps is already lower then most other class’s just we do big damage during ascendance which if they are nurfing our big cd then they should be buffing our sustain damage and not double downing on the nurf stick
i honestly think at this point shaman devs clearly dont do all there testing of what buff/nurf/changes they are implementing
the first time in the last 3 expansions ele has been in a good spot and s tier they are going to be nurfed back to c-b tier
i dont think blizzard understands that outside of ascendance we get out dps by nearly evey class unless you get a dre proc so with the new nurf to our sustain dps incoming and nurf to our burst dps its truely a bad day for ele
i agree that ele needed a nurf to ascendance but i was kinda hoping they would increase our sustain dps to counteract this nurf not double down - ive said this for a while but i think blizzards ele dev needs replacing because they just keep failing the class over and over - 1 poor decision thats fine but when they have been useless for 3 expansions surely they just not right for it
Patchnotes seems abit harsher than expected, but after checking with discord, nerfs are abit lighter (10% st, 20% aoe). At a glance this does not seem that much, but will wait for sims to come out.
If they overdid it blizzard has a chance to revert some of them. It’s normal occurrence for them to release some notes and for them to change them until the reset (looking at hunters and palas dodging some nerfs).
Good thing is that stat priority seems to not change, mastery still holding strong as the best stat or close to best.
With a big overload nerf on asc. and talent mastery wont be as good. Nerfs are bigger than it looks because we dont have any damage outside of asc and augmentation like ST damage. Imagine how it will be after these nerfs. Rework a spec and then throw them to C tier in 4 days. Solid clueless bliz sh1t.
Yeah blizzard always does this, doesnt think about the player doesnt test properly
Then they look at top logs see oh its a bit overtuned compared to the rest lets put them in the bin again.
and people probably spent 100 thousands of gold recrafting and adjusting to the new changes, little did they know blizzard does a 360. Honestly big screw you to the new changes, the one button we rarly press frost shock gets a mini buff.
I really want to know did the devs have the time to test this changes in m+ or Raid before add them to the live servers and based on what they make these changes. I expected slight nerf for Ascendance, but half of the abilities is absurd and they are huge nerfs.I guess we have to stop playing this season till you balance the classes properly and come back next year or may be next year wont be enough cause I am sick playing in test server.
the last addons especially BFA was a shame for Ele Shaman. Do any of you devs actually play Ele? Then give us a piece of cake and we’ll even be very happy to be taken along in high M+ keys and raids. It’s true that we’re a bit too strong right now, but what’s coming next makes us completely useless.
How can you treat players like this? One week good and the next week completely unusable?
If the changes go live like this, you’ll have one less subcription and I’ve been playing since Vanilla, just enough is enough.
I and many players simply no longer have the time to equip 10 alts. If you think you have to waste our invested time like this. Then I don’t know what to think of Blizz anymore.
just did a mist 12 did 1.9mil over all - Rogue did 1.8 and boomie did 1.7
if i get a 20% aoe nurf and 10% single target ima be sitting at around 1.5-1.6m and boomie are getting buffed
Outside of our ascendance we get out dps’d by the other class’s we have one strong cd that lets us pump sure but now thats getting a 33% nurf with another 20% nurf to it with a multiplyer of another 20% in one hit
Yes it was a bit over tuned and i accept that it needs nurfing but then they are also nurfing our sustained dps - chainlighting damage by 10% and losing a insta proc off tempest
So not only is our burst getting nurf multiple times with 4-5 different nurfs, our sustain is getting 2 nurfs that our sustain without cds (unless you get a DRE proc was quite low and below most class’s)
and this is all just for aoe let along the impacts of our single target nurfs as-well even though we are not the top performers in single target - there are hunter enh and rogue also performing just as well but noun of them are taking as big of hit as we are for single target
Blizzard please start testing these implements before throwing them onto live server because its kinda joke at the moment - you haven’t even fixed the current bugs with ele and you are nurfing them before fixing the bugs is kinda crazy to me - not even gonna take a look at how the perform after the bug fix you gonna destroy the class then after that you gonna fix the bugs and put them in a worse off state
no matter what way you put it “ele are performing more then indented” so you just intended us to be useless is that what you are saying because with the nurfs thats exactly what we are going to be…
I am shocked by these nerfs. Just after I recrafted, catalyst and remade all my gear (enchants, gems, the lot) after 11.0.5 hit, now they come up with these HUGE nerfs. Even before the first nerf (to LR), I wasn’t out-damaging other classes in keys (like dks, boomies, rogues, warrs, paladins, etc.) and raids.
Why on earth are they nerfing Elemental, whilst other specs get buffed (like boomies) and other ones remain untouched for weeks, despite being broken (like FDKs)?
This is the first time I got invited in keys as Elemental, and not being required to swtich to Resto. It will have lasted less than a week, insane.
Personally, if these nerfs go live, I just CBA and leave the game. My raid spot is now lost for mythic, and I’ll be forced to go back to healing in keys. Maybe come back in Season 2, hope things change for the better by then.
It is clear Blizzard does not have any care and support for Elemental Shaman players. Certainly not like they do for other classes (cough mages cough).
Many players are in same path. I will not login until 30th and if these nerfs go live, I will delete wow completely. No time for bulls. I paid for recraft, spent time on my char just so Bliz can put to graveyard 4 days after rework. Yet FDK remained OP for 8 weeks, Boomie still does so much damage, Sin is also in top comps with top damage but yeah enough data gathered in 4 days. F.U.
Blizzard doesn’t care about shammies, specially Ele …if they did they give us also fea transfusion skill from SL , and some mechanics from artifact weapon, shammy is also quite slow caster compare to destro lock,.
no matter what we do and how much we complain - they only care about money…
I was excited about the rework because i liked ascendance playstyle like it was with ele in legion expansion. I just spent like 500k gold to gear my shammy fast. 612 ilvl but after those huge nerfs incoming ill be hitting like im 590. Ele is going to be worse than it was in 11.0.2. Im so upset and dissapointed. Time to go back playing some single player casual games.
I was just about to get a 12-month subscription, but I’m glad I didn’t. I’ll unsubscribe and come back for Season 2, hoping Blizzard will finally improve how they treat Elemental Shamans. It’s really disappointing, Blizzard.