ENHA PvP is a totally disaster spec, HORRIBLE

Out is even running the game for demo. Like i said high mobility should never have high dmg.

Thats because if anything it needs a nerf…

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Only against destru and maybe affli a bit. Demo can easily chain cc you with axe toss openings forcing you to preemptively place tremor totem which is hard against a class with instant cc’s from a far range. Grounding is also pretty bad vs. Demo and Affli if you plan to stop their dmg with it. It’s only good against destru in that regard to soak some chaosbolts.

Enh is not amazing but this post is too biased for me. It certainly has strong burst and it certainly has really good offheals.

Why do people always have immensely exaggerate? This isnt helping your cause

What are you talking? Totems are great against any lock spec, Tyrant dmg don’t count for tremor totem. Same goes for grounding, it eats a lot of spells from my pets.

You don’t know what you are talking about.

  • You need a lot of melee uptime to build your damage
  • Healing is crap
  • You sacrifice MW, which means damage, to heal

Meanwhile pure dps classes are healing passively while shredding your face.

No mobility, no direct stun, abilities based about stupid totems that get destroyed the moment they drop, 1 defensive, no MS, no execute, so no, ENh is not amazing, it’s absolutely the WORST melee spec to play in PvP, since WOD.

There is nothing to exaggerate, there’s only facts.

It’s not about that. A non demo lock can’t stun me from afar. He has to come close for coil → fear which is easier to prevent than the chain cc from a demo. Also wasting grounding to soak some pet dmg isn’t worth it at all. It’s about to prevent getting cc’d in the open so you can LoS the demo lock during tyrant/netherportal uptime.

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You can use the root Totem against the pets. How is the cd of that totem?

Had that in 3s with the Nether Portal build. I hate that build.

I guess you would agree that blizzard should give demo a rework to mop style? Easier to balance and fight against.

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Root-Totem is now universal for all shaman specs but with 1 min CD which sucks. Has the same CD as the almighty capacitor totem which isn’t very good either. Regarding demo locks I don’t really know. They have to fulfill its spec fantasy somehow. Maybe make it into something like a demon lord of only one but powerful demon which you can empower with your dmg rotation instead of a zookeeper but it’d be hard to differentiate between the other lock specs then…

It is always ready for the pets. Try to only get the Felguards and dogs with it. Tyrant often bugs out if los’ed. So don’t let him come in melee range, before that he won’t cast.

You don’t know how mop demo was?
Here a video:
https://youtu.be/XnZofZlDHzU

Didn’t play back then. I joined the party during legion… But this gameplay looks pretty cool tbh. Yeah I could imagine demos to be like that.^^

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It is more fun than now, i really like demo with the Felguard but i want the dmg coming from me but only from stupid ai and npcs. And to be honest balancing this summoner style won’t end good for both sides either we have Legion demo which was crap or we have DF demo where 95% of dmg comes from the pets. And it is strong for 3s and 2s i think God tier?

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Felguard is iconic for demo warlock^ That wont be any hard.

dude, it is literally random which of the billion pets get rooted.
also i took 100k dmg from the dogs already when you threw them into my face, they dont even need to melee you…

also the whole spec clusterf my screen and this dumbo spec should be deleted

100k is with the talent and he must cast a lot of HoG to get that number.

All 5 pets are melees, run behind a pillar away so you can only hit them.

I agree w the op

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guys, everyone we have good “totems, defensive, talents, etc” no offense but, you have never played Enha in your life, not only this expansion, but the people that have played Enha at high rating we can garantee we are totally useless in all aspects, and our talents are bad.

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Exactly this.

Ench really feels bad as a spec.

The only time I can do some stuff with it is when i go all out on the healing surge related talents and spend maelstorms as defensively.

Its defensives (wall + grounding) are weird, it has to spend GCD to chase people (in and out of spirit wolf), it sometimes runs out of buttons to press (despite my best effort to talent around with stormstrike resets), its slow.

I don’t know. All I can say is that it just feels awful to play. It can do only 1 thing; static, pop everything (doom winds, lust, wolves) and pray the target dies otherwise you won’t do much damage till your next go. It feels like a bad/downgraded version of WW.

I know it works as a friend of Fury but thats basically it.

Edit: The guy that made lightning bolt + ele blast a part of Ench dps rotation disgusts me. Go play mario please.

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Don’t forget WF that is now a pure crap ability, where it used to be the SURPRISE MOFO ability that made Enhance super fun to play.

Frankly, I like LB / EB, but the problem is that they are our only main spenders, which is really bad.

EDIT : Still, our real problem is that we are not on par with other melee specs, which have better ccs, better mobility, better survivability and even more selfhealing, meanwhile we need to sacrifice damage by sacrificing MW to have mediocre healing.