Enhance PvP rework

Enhance need a rework. For already like 3 expansions. Mostly defensively. It needs some dmg reduction. Wall in stun, passive healing on wolves. Something like these.

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To be fair until everyone got 4 set I considered Enha decent as it was kinda doing good into meta specs (DH, DK, Disc) thanks to Static Field Totem but since everyone got all these pieces it feels weak. Is Enha defensive that bad? I don’t know to be fair. Depends on the comp. It hurts that you have to choose between Ride the Lightning, Burrow, Grounding Totem and Static Field Totem. In the matchups that you don’t have to take both Ride the Lightning and Grounding Enha feels ok. Maybe making Ride the Lightning baseline or even Burrow baseline for Shaman would be good for the spec.

Imo all shaman specs suffer because there are too many good talents/PvP talents and sometimes you struggle with picking right 3 because everything feels good and useful.

What you are saying about PvP talents is definitely true but the biggest problem is 100% defense. Enhance is hands down worst melee spec in this manner.
Its super easy to kill blue.

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It is but from my experience it’s still more tanky than F DK and Feral.

If you start comparing our defensives as better than the worst melee classes, we’re gonna have a problem. Doesn’t make them good.

Ofc but it’s not that we are the worst. What I think is a bigger issue for enha is lack of synergy with other specs than Arms and WW. Besides them there is no ther real option for enha to play in 3s.

P.S.:

Cubitus, why do you play 4 set? From my perspective it’s weak. Do you invest 2 points into Witch Doctor’s Ancestry? I don’t plan getting it. Probably I will go for more crafted pieces instead and stack mastery.

Enhancement lack defensives to last a long time in a melee environement. Choosing Arms and WW is a great exemple as they are Turbo Comps, meant to go fast. Any team able to counter it usually means a greater dps output in a short amount of time, or a long game focused on dampening.
Surprise, we lack the tools to survive in melee for a extended amount of time, and our passive healing gets worse as dampening increases. In a a meta where mortal strikes (that we don’t have) rule and constant dampening, our survivability is greatly reduced. We need defensives, such as absorb shields, thorns, anything that will punish an extended focus on us.

I play 4 sets because I play the Elementalist build in Shuffle.
Also, it’s getting buffed next week.

  • Lava Lash damage is now increased by 25% in PvP combat (was 12%).
  • Elemental Blast damage is now reduced by 6% in PvP combat (was 15%).

Thorim gets a 10% nerf also.

  • Thorim’s Invocation now increases Lightning Bolt and Chain Lightning damage by 10% in PvP Combat (was 20%).

Because you’re not meant to brawl as Enha but I played quite a lot of Enha first week and we did good even into DH/DK/Disc. It’s worse now since they all got 4 sets and pump more.

But it doesn’t make sense it literally takes 7 sec from Primordial Wave based on Wolves that CD is way longer and you sacrifice Mastery for it that buffs Elementalist build.

Thats true, Enhance isn’t made to brawl, but in addition to lacking defensives, we lack the mobility to shift in and out of brawls. And my point still stands.

It makes sense. Procing wolves reduces PW cd by 7 seconds, casting PW reduces its cd by 3.5, and reduces wolves cd by 20s. Allows to use both wolves and PW more frequently.
By the way, you don’t lose that much mastery, as gloves gives you +510 in PvP, and shoulders are usually haste-vers. You lose more vers than mastery tbh. But in the end it’s all worth it, you don’t really need 7K vers anyway, try to aim for 3K haste, 3K mastery, rest versa, you should be fine.

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Ye I didnt count FDK. And you shouldnt either. Its not a spec. It doesnt exist.

You don’t need 7k vers anyway. Going past 18-20% haste is pointless but you can use crafted items to drop vers for Mastery.

…that’s what i said lol

Yes but by going 4 set you invest a lot into stats you don’t want for 7 sec reduction on 45 sec cd every 1 min.? xD What a deal

Whenever you log on your sham, go to valdraken and hit the pvp dummy with the 4 set. I guarantee that you will proc wolves and primordial more than 1 a minute.

https://murlok.io/shaman/enhancement/3v3

Stats from top 50 Enha world. Literally noone goes for 4 set.

Most of them are running storm build, also Saul is running the 4 set…

But Saul is NA. We are playing EU. 90% of NA builds don’t work in EU - doesn’t matter what spec.

And why is that ?

Because people in NA don’t care about meta and comps like they do in EU. EU is way more sweaty. Trust me I have an NA account. Literally Saul plays WW/Enha/H Priest in NA and it works while it would never work in EU.

Then I’m NA. Problem solved