This last nerf has completely ended the fun for me.
Before the nerf, yes. I did sometimes dealt a lot of damage under certain circumstances. (Which still wasn’t half as good as assassination or mm btw)
But what in freaking hell justifies halving the damage of an ability…?
After the nerf. Under no circumstance can i land a kill in arena. Everyone simply outheals my “burst”. It is totally gone.
It is already hard to stay alive or “control the match with cc’s” with enhancement… Please at least let us have enough burst when those magical moments happen.
enhancement atm is just a glass cannon spec without any sort of cannon power at all. It’s fair to say that it’s undoubtedly the worst melee spec in pvp atm
yep, u can be a 3k+ enhance shaman and face a 2.1k max exp dh,assa,fury,feral etc and get dominated simply because you have no tools or abilities to survive. You do not do enough damage to make them retreat so you’re permanently on the backfoot the whole time
MM lol the specs is getting absolutely destroyed next patch and it didn’t 1 shot equal geared players…. Just look at all the MM hunters on the ladder….
yea %15 nerf to elemental blast… ok.
%75 nerf to primordial? %75? How does this make sense?
Why is it not ok for enhancement to be in arena?
Why is enhancement nerfs are so quick while they are “deciding” about DH MM assasination? Whats up with rapidfire + kill shot? How is it ok and not elemental blast?
(edit: fine it will be nerfed -as it was obviously gonna be-. Still doesn’t change enhancement’s situation. People can turtle our damage as long as they want)
You know i shouldn’t be comparing ok… But %75 nerf was the answer? It just feels like this isn’t a “balance” act. This is totally out of proportions. Our burst isn’t reduced. It’s deleted.
Enhancement is helluva fun this expension. Best iteration ever (apart from shamanistic rage) Why the numbers need to be so low?
MM is not an extreme outlier, I agree with they, but they did actually damn near 1shot equally geared players. They’re not that bad at all right now
Double Tap from Camo → Sniper Shot → Rapid Fire → Killshot combo 100-0’d pretty much any fully geared class. I’ve seen this happen to glad players on stream
Enhance is always a very hit or miss spec in arena. A rare once in a while Turbo will be really good, but if you care much about being ‘viable’ I would play a different spec
yea i know. I’ve been playing enhance for a while now.
Just checked the us forums. No one is even whining about this ridicilous nerf of enhance in pvp. I don’t think anyone ever plays it anymore lol.
You know… I never played pvp seriously (rather couldn’t…) I just expected the game to be fun like they promised. It is not to be. It just seems they want certain specs in arena and nothing more.
Again… this isn’t a balance pass. %75 nerf can’t be a “numbers tuning”.
I also think nerf to elemental blast was needed. But outside that Ench can’t seem to really create pressure.
Its offensive cooldowns are a bit weird too. You can use wolves but if you dont have elemental blast charges you spend maels on lightning which doesnt do much.
I still think its a really good support spec in turbo but thats the only place it shines. I guess Blizzard is happy with that.
the nerf to elemental blast was not needed. They needed to nerf Overflowing Maelstrom talent which is the talent making ele blast hit for 100k+. If u don’t play this talent you would rarely ever see an ele blast hit for over 80k.
I decided to reroll Retry until they buff Enha, is unplayable, is like Axiom said, you can be 3k+ Enha shaman, getting completly dominating by any 2k Dh, assa, warr, dk, sp, feral, doing only pve on you. I press doomwinds + bloodlust and the target is full hp, is just a meme. WIth retry, is very bad too, similar as enha, but at least you press wings and everyone start to use defensives.
enhance only sees play if it is OP and one shots people, out side of that basically nobody ever plays it so nobody complains. In history enhance was always nerfed almost instantly while other classes get to play a whole patch to play with broken stuff (see MM hunter? nerfed after a big PTR test which might still not even happen, but enhance gets hotfixed to the trash)
with that nerf they completely trashed the whole talent side. I mean ele blast with primordial wave up (just to get msw) does more dmg than lightning bolt, so you would just never use lightning bolt unless you had 3 flame shocks up and even then it would be kinda useless.
hardly. I also don’t know what happened exactly… last time i read it now only uses 7 msw? but it still consumes 10 for me.
The biggest crit i had was 110k so far. My killshot hits for 160k, my rapid fire hits for over 200k. Death swept hits even for 120k+ lol
Meanwhile they buff Stormstrike by 30% LOL
man that ability would need a 300% buff to make enhance remotely viable.
Yes, go trash all the spender dmg abilties and buff stormstrike by 300% and WF by 100% and we gucci. We need all msw to heal anyways.
these moron devs cannot grasp that this talent destroyed the whole spec. Funny enough in SL beta they made it msw can stack to 10 so you don’t waste MSW by overstacking just to implement something similiar for 10 stacks with the excuse, welllll you dont have to use it at 10 stacks
well while ret is complete garbanzo in arena as well, you are at least allowed to have fun in bg.
I mean wings+FR while already delete half HP bars of a whole group and if your decree crits as well, all are dead.
The design is still complete trash.
The general balance this time around is really atrocious considering the double standard depending on the specs.
some abilities are allowed to crit for 150k+ while others are not, it is pretty dumb
yes, but I can’t play Rbgs (i tried 100 times to find party from the beginning of dragonflight), because people want and look exp, and i don’t have it… the only 2 things that i can do in pvp is 2v2 with my friend sub rogue (we have a 47% win rate and he was 2400cr in SL) and solo shuffle (I have a 50% win rate but i m locked at 1400).
2v2 as pug? healers don’t want pala retri and with another dps is it’s like condemning yourself to death. 3v3 as pug? pala retri is one of the crap class which is discarded, maybe taken if you have glad exp, but I have only 1800 exp.
well yea no, rbgs are also off limits. Only can do random bgs xD
that comp isn’t all that bad.
Saw vanguards and nahj play it in 2s, but they obviously a crazy good players
Thing is that even the R1s running around at 1800 in 2s so don’t wonder why you are stuck at 1400 or whatever with a non fotm comp in 2s
that is true for most specs that are not considered S tier at the moment.
It was the reason why solo queue was celebrated that the savior for most people BUT pls forked it up and now you got 10 years queue time as dps and never get rating because people leave all the time
