Imagine mages complaint about shamans!
Mages should NOT cry about anything.
Lol a mage complaining on enhance look at that its funny even when its about PVE dps we even didn’t start to speak about pvp survival/dps/uptime/CC/defensives .
Also why are you linking and crying about enhance hitting 15M on a boss that does the following “Oulfarran overwhelms Maloch with the fury of the forest, stunning him and increasing all damage he takes by 200% for 15 sec.
This removes the effects of Embrace Darkness and Death Shroud.”
It looks the same as someone hitting a critter and saying “look at that damugggg”
My barrage that is so supposed to be the hardest hitting spell in the game hit that boss 3x less!!! Show me a mage doing 5M dps on that boss. Encha shaman two most commonly used spells are hitting 2-3x times harder than barrage even if we ignore the boss that buffs the dps
That sentence is one of the most out of place things I have heard for a while. It isn’t even the hardest hitting spell of your spec.
By that logic should we be calling for nerfs for arcane that can do 30-40m hits with Touch of the Magi? Or we should be content with nerfing frost mage that can do 20-25m glacial spikes?
If you spent half the time analyzing and comparing yourself to other mages instead of shamans, you would not have any problems getting into groups.
It is the hardest castable spell of my spec without a cooldown. TotM is an accumulated damage over time spell that has a 45 seconds cooldown.
Look at this please and analyze carefully.
Data from Stonevault 9 run:
Lets look at encha shaman top 3 castable spells damage (gear ilvl: 621):
- Tempest (Cast time: Instant, GCD: 0, hits max: 4.3M, crits max: 7M, avg dmg: 1.78M)
- Chain Lightning (Cast time: 2s, GCD: 1.5s, hits max: 1.6M, crits max: 2.6M, avg dmg: 697K)
- Lightning Bolt (Cast time: 2.5s, GCD: 1.5s, hits max: 5.4M, crits max: 10M, avg dmg: 2.13M)
Now compare that to Arcane most commonly used that that contribute the most to the total damage output (gear ilvl: 621).
- Arcane Barrage (Cast time: Instant, GCD: 1.5s, hits max: 2M, crits max: 5M, avg dmg: 400K)
- Arcane Missiles (Cast time: Channeled, GCD: 1.5s, hits max: 1.5M, crits max: 600K, avg dmg: 138K)
- TotM (Cast time: Instant, CD: 45s, GCD: 0, hits max: 6.9M, crits max: NULL, avg dmg: 1.65M)
Conclusion:
Tempest (1.78M) vs TotM (1.65M) → Difference: 130K → ~OK
Chain Lightning (697K) vs Arcane Missiles (138K) → Difference: 559K → BROKEN
Lightning Bolt (2.13M) vs Arcane Barrage (400K) → Difference: 1730K → BROKEN
Do you find that fair that Chain Lightning and Lightning Bolt are doing much more total damage than Arcane Missiles and Arcane Barrage? It is easy to fix… Enjoy playing a BROKEN class! With this class tuning policy there will be less and less subscribers because not everyone is a META reroller!
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I cannot get over the fact that you try to compare details damage events between you (a 2.5k arcane mage), and a 3k enh shaman on a +9. I would say to go get some real data from public logs, but I think I would be wasting both our times.
How you go about comparing is utterly boneheaded.
The actual comparison here is an average mage versus a good shaman. On your logs you’re getting rolled by boomies and demolocks
and by prot warriors PROT.
You should work on playing your class properly, not screaming that another class is OP. If you were playing your class properly you’d be doing respectable damage and the gap would be smaller.
I was 3.2k in DF so what? Stop posting from different chars.
I was higher rated than you in DF and im higher rated than you now. Besides i continue to play my class and my spec while you are a Meta reroller. Making conclusions on someones skill level based on random logs is stupid. There are too many factors which can easily screw up your logs.
And now you are 2.5k. That by itself does nto say anything, but you comparing damage from details to another player that is playing on a different level than you says alot.
Good, you at least get that. Now apply that logic to spec balance also.
Blizzard has their own statistics and track balance. They nerfed enh before and we all knew it was coming. They are not gonna kill the spec now, but will do it in 2 months that the season is gonna end.
Not that it is gonna matter for you, since arcane is still not gonna be the meta. All that is gonna change is move from the shaman forum to the next spec forum to complain.
I would argue with that statement unless that shaman would log into Arcane with same gear, do M+ run with me and beat me by a mile. You know i did lots of runs with players much higher than me and better geared but somehow i saw only encha shamans having such a big gap in total dps compared to my dps.
Somehow I doubt that, since most people that are serious with progress have no reason to do anything below a 10. So in 10 or so keys that you have done on that level, I doubt with what you are saying.
Funny to say that, because we have those statistics with other arcane mages. In heroic mode your performance is closer to the 33th percentile.
If at the keys you are doing you only see enhancement beating you, then I have no idea why you do not run with good paladins, survival hunters, and other good burst specs.
There is a reason for higher rated players to do 10s. Its called crests + weekly chest.
Just check my runs.
I don’t care about raiding. The only reason i did Nerubian palace was to get that broken trinket. But i had no luck. Cba trying it anymore.
There are good players from other classes and they outdps me in total but the gap is never so big as i witnessed it with encha shamans and it has nothing to do with their skills.
By the way, you are writing here to me defending a broken overtuned class being only 200 RIO higher than me (probably the worst spec in game atm) being nearly gear capped with 637 ilvl. You must be really bad if you cannot get even to 3K when your class is META. If my class was that overtuned it would be a peace of cake for me to reach 3K. I reached 3.2K when my specc was far from META. Keep in mind i reached 3.2K as Arcane not Fire that was a flamestrike spambot powered by Aug+SP.
Let’s trigger the mage.
I had an 18 mio crit the other day with tremor! And the trash between rashanan and ovinax, I peaked at 17 mio DPS because sunderings lucky resets turned it to a spammable ability.
Get mad mage.
Zorthas had a 100m Crit on Mists 1st boss still.
dunno what to say just tought OG Poster should know
100 Milion Enhancer Damage kekw
tbf you can see the 70m and right after 100m so basically hes doing 170m in 2 globals yep thats actually true LOL
Yea, But thats normal. Thats a damage amp with 10% extra stats on top from shroom. I finished that boss on 6m dps aswell. with aug and PI.
I just want to point that when it looked like that for almost 4 expansions in a row (WoD - BFA - SL , in Legion it was a little better), everyone were just fine and we did not get any buff even if we desperately needed them
Bro gets beaten by prot warrior
In your dream
https://i.imgur.com/AbWmCai.jpeg
You failed to time +10 CoT with 632 ilvl playing META spec! I timed it easily playing with weakest specc in game.
This topic is not about the highest crit on the first boss in Mists.
Bro they reverted the nerfs for shamans keeping them overpowered while killing the sunfury playstyle in mid season… Besides arcane was not even close to encha shaman numbers in dps meters as we see it now. Completely unfair and unjustified nerfs!
No you weren’t. Yes, mw monks, the well known class meta fotm rerollers all went to
Also had a prot pala at a higher score than you, again they weren’t meta. Oh, and a shaman.
Whereas you were truly meta and couldn’t get to my score. I’m not saying I’m good, I’m not. I just don’t cry about other classes and recognise my shortcomings.