I’m not sure if anyone came up with this idea already.
I think it is pretty safe to say that we won’t be able to wear two-handed weapons ever again even though this is fraquently asked by many nostalgic enhancement players. Its main feature was to have some crazy wind fury burst in PVP (with a little bit of luck), which is rightfully called a niche situation and wouldn’t justify a rework of the spec.
So what if we had a spell that morphs our weapons for about 15 seconds into a two-handed weapon, instead of actually wearing two-handed weapons? It could be similar to Ascendence, but melee with a two-handed mace and a crit buff. This way we could have some of the old enhancer feeling without having to rework anything else of the spec. It could be a talent in the row of Ascendence or another option would be to offer an honor talent that chances Ascendence into this form. This way it wouldn’t effect PVE at all.
2 handed enha was never a “thing”. Never went that way (offically). Vanilla enhancement tree, was an unfinished “something”, which main purpose was to be a tank spec. Which one ofc ditched.
Blizz went with dual wield way, last time 2 handed enha worth something, was in tbc pvp.
Doubt we will ever have an offically 2 handed enha in this game.
That’s wrong, it was totally a viable way to play. Was it tuned like other classes in vanilla? No. But you can’t sit there and say it was never a thing.
sure it was a thing, i mean hell you had to take a talent for it, but it was before enhancement was the least bit competitive, it was 2 years of 2h, then 13 of of DW. 2h in Classic is fun, but we are a DW class have been for 95% of the game
It was a different and more simpler time and it wasn’t just waiting for autoattacks. The game was different back then, but you can’t say it was never a thing. I remember swinging my 2hander quite happily back in the day in pvp.
so you go check out youtube and search for unbreakable enhancement shaman pvp and say it wasnt viable.
Was a golden era for the class and spec anyone who says it wasnt, wasnt around at the time and has literally no idea what they are talking about, prove me otherwise.
Especially since u could one shot anything including a raid boss before blizz realised windfury could proc 3x attacks that could proc 3x attacks that could proc 3x attacks use your brain do the math it was the strongest spec in the game at one stage
have you guys played Classic? I have I made a hilarious video of Enh
enhance was alot of fun in Vanilla / Classic! could it one-shot people? leather or Clothies absolutely!.. Is it Viable? Not really. 1v1 it is way too easy to control, with no gap closers or CC its hard to keep any uptime on range classes and melee classes either have too much armor or CC to beat them. Watch any Duel tournament from Classic, no one played Enhance as it just isn’t viable in a competitive situation.
As for PvE it is considered a meme spec for a reason, dmg is low but mega bursty, so what ends up happening is you do bad dmg, then have massive burst and pull aggro and die or have to stop DPS, if you’re willing to spend alot of time getting consumes and WBs you can do OK
the point being Enhance wasn’t really Viable until DW was introduced.
Depends what people mean by viable I guess, everything was viable in vanilla, in classic with all the retarded levels of min maxing going on its definately not
Enhancement was viable in pvp, in pve you run out of mana too fast too compete with other classes. Like I said above, was it tuned like other classes? No. As for dueling 1vs1, I mean it isn’t balanced now, let alone 15 years ago. My point stands, is it fair that the other person said, “it was never a thing” because it helps their narrative against the OP? No.
I’m not going to sit here and put it on a pedestal like some people do, it had flaws, big flaws! But 2H was one of the great ways to play the game and shamans brought a ton of utility along with it.
In Random BGs it is I guess, if you get the jump on Clothies you can utterly delete them, but without a gap closer, mages can endlessly kite you if they’re average or better but we are one of the stronger classes vs Locks and Spriests which are among the strongest 1v1 classes in Vanilla, so i guess we’re viable there.
Its been up and down, mostly down, but I think it would be worse with 2H and back in TBC i done both 2h PVP and DW and outside of 1 shotting clothies with bad gear, DW was always better
Sadly not, not in the context of viability of todays standards, like if you put Classic / Vanilla Enh into Arena it would be one of the lower specs due to no CC or Anti CC and no surviveability. There was at least an Enhance shaman on one of the NA AWC qualified teams IIRC (though Enhance at the top end PVP has always been rare)
Personally I feel I can contribute more to a fight in Vanilla/Classic then I would as a Enhancement in 8.3. I can completely shut down a healer and have extrodinary burst if WF procs and great utility for the time. I can also off-heal to boot!
In 8.3, outside of corruption procs the only real burst you get is when you cast Ascendance. Our mobility and utility is overshadowed by many classes and our healing is abysmal. Not to mention our complete lack of defensives , retail is a defensive heavy meta compared to classic.
You’re really trying, it was a feasible way for the spec to play in PvP. I’m not saying it was the best, nor the worst, but it worked. What I won’t say though is “It was never a thing”, because that would just be a fabrication and totally wrong.
