I haven’t been doing much tanking in BfA but every tanking guide that I’ve seen revolves around kiting. When doing Mythic+ I see the tank just getting enough aggro and then running away.
In Legion I tanked with druid, death knight and warrior and I never had to kite.
So what changed really?
They seem to have added a lot of interesting new tacts, so I would assume that is the main reason that you gotta kite.
Tanks are not as tanky as they used to be, so unless u wanna get your face smashed to mush u need to heroicly advance into a different direction.
You can no longer keep a pack stunned to hell and back in addition to all packs now having dangerous abilities in one form or another.
Pretty much this, You also lack the same amount of self healing as tanks had in Legion so now you have to rely on the healer way more to keep you up while the entire pack is mass spamming AoE most likely cause blizz thought that’d be fun
They nerfed tanks a lot. They also changed the way necro works. They added a lot of magic dmg into the game and nerfed our magic mitigation.
God gave you legs so that you can run. So, you’d better learn how to kite on keys 10+. Especially on this fortified week when some adds easily crash tank’s face into pieces
They made tanks squishy so kiting is sometimes only viable option. It is total failure, what is the fun in game as a tank when you have to run away from mobs like a dps instead of keeping them on your face taking their hits with your active mitigation… In that scenario every dps may be tank if there is enough cc available in team…
I’ve been tanking in games since before WoW launched and whilst kiting was a thing, it was the exception rather than the rule
tanking to me is getting agro, turning the mobs/boss away from the group, keeping agro and not dying
not running about
In legion it was 1 kite party, as far as I remember. And that was easier too because of a lot more tank threat.
I’m guessing this is why we get so many tanks running round like headless chickens in the low level dungeons. For me as a mage its very difficult to keep up with a tank that wont let me get a cast off. I gave up yesterday with one tank cus I don’t think I fired anything. He was was pulling even the main boss mobs all over the place.
Bravely bold Sir Robin
Rode forth from Camelot.
He was not afraid to die,
Oh brave Sir Robin.
He was not at all afraid
To be killed in nasty ways.
Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Robin.
He was not in the least bit scared
To be mashed into a pulp.
Or to have his eyes gouged out,
And his elbows broken.
To have his kneecaps split
And his body burned away,
And his limbs all hacked and mangled
Brave Sir Robin.
His head smashed in
And his heart cut out
And his liver removed
And his bowls unplugged
And his nostrils raped
And his bottom burnt off
And his pen–
“That’s… that’s enough music for now lads,
*** there’s dirty work afoot*** ???.”
Brave Sir Robin ran away.
(“No!”)
Bravely ran away away.
(“I didn’t!”)
When danger reared it’s ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
(“no!”)
Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about
(“I didn’t!”)
And gallantly he chickened out.
Bravely taking (“I never did!”) to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat.
(“all lies!”)
Bravest of the braaaave, Sir Robin!
(“I never!”)
Copyright - Monty Python
Taken from the film - Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
Pulling everything including the bosses and kiting is something completely different.
Damn… This is so fitting in how i think about tanking these days.
Just another area where Blizzard wanted to take the “un” out of fun, so now it’s just f’d.
Tanking now is uncool for sure. Not that you must be careful with your active mitigation tracking boss timers etc, but also you must watch for your health and even run away when it’s going low quickly.
To start with, there was a lot of tank kiting in Legion. You would run into like 20 mobs and then just kite them around the room to avoid taking hits. Because of the high threat, you could easily get away with it.
Since then, Blizzard nerfed both threat and mitigation of tanks, making it much harder to tank-kite, but also made it more necessary in a sense.
I think tank kiting is pretty fun, although if you’re no good at it or your DPS aren’t paying a lot of attention, it can get pretty ugly.
One warning about kiting, people (=healers) wont always handle kiting, I had way too many wipes just because people didnt expect me to jump/dash/whatever to different position to drop debuff stacks or something …
Now when I go with pugs I barely move, only when I see people are doing good I take one or two leaps to test them …
Damn tanking seems hard I used to heal before but tanking no thank you at least not until I read some guides how to even start 
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Nahh ![:stuck_out_tongue:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/stuck_out_tongue.png?v=6" ":stuck_out_tongue:")
Good tank kiting depends just as much on the DPS. Can they actually figure out how to rotate interrupts, get the slows up, and AoE stun whenever they get close or are about to do something dangerous, and can they do enough damage to actually kill all 20 mobs and take advatange of the fact that you pulled that many?
As ever, it’s possible to do very well in M+ or raids without pulling massive groups. You don’t need to. It just speeds you up in good groups. Good DPS will pull some hilarious stuff when you pull 20 mobs.
Had a ret, Frost DK, and Ele Shaman group the other day. When I gathered all the mobs up, the group DPS was ~280k for ~10 seconds. Don’t ask me how they did it btw I have no idea. xD Couldn’t have done it myself let me tell you! It’s some crazy cooldown AoE shenanigans involving specific traits. It’s really quite hilarious. Shaman was pushing 130k using the ele, which itself was doing almost half of his DPS, ret was pushing 80k, and DK was pushing 70k. I was also putting out my own ~12k (guardian druid). It was utterly bananas.
Thing is though, if you pull this many mobs and your DPS can’t do stupid stuff like this, you just end up running around taking relatively big hits until the healer runs OOM or complains about LoS issue because you have to kite to africa. You do have to kite though, or you’ll just get instantly clobbered by the pack of mobs unless your big CD’s are up (which you pop to gather them up in the first place)
I can comfortably get a +12 done without tank kiting at all, for example. But I could maybe have shaved the time down by 5 minutes if I had tank-kited.
If you never kited as a tank in Legion, than you werent a good tank.
The most infamous place was Nelthartions Lair for Kiting