Yeah, and you are with folks like Skogsdotter, the multiboxer and sync queuer, who openly admits he has no empathy and only cares about himself and his short-term pleasure.
Be proud!
This we can apply to all stacks of “friends” queing up for normals.
The sync queuers in particular, they can get more than enough “friends” to do this, with so many of 'em constantly being online. Since War Games failed and no new attempts are coming up (not even for normal War Games), I’d say just disband that community already. Atm the only purpose is to form more antisocial 5-man stacks with “friends”.
Can you really blame them though? Fistus doesn’t necessarily play stacks of 5 man premades and plus, not so sure about Skog, but the real issue is that every round with alliance it is literally and virtually impossible to play or lead whether alone or in a small group. Two things often happens : 1. People quit/afks after the initial teamfight or 2. You got people telling or asking you to stop ‘spamming’, very rarely alliance players have a fighting spirit, so when they do so, I compliment them, but most of the times people don’t want to be helped, can you explain why? Because as far I am aware, anyone that does queue epic is agreeing to join a full-scale combat that requires a modicum of cooperation or teamwork, anyone that does not comply with that are intentionally sabotaging, yet no one talks about them.
If it was for me, in all honesty, hate me or love me, I do not care, I’d lift the queue cap and incentivise Guild Teams therefore a quasi-wargame format to the EBG who people can queue directly in raid groups of x quantity.
doh? I said this since ages now something about a lot of these alliance lobbys is weird to no end.
And now ask yourself why is a 5 ppl premade enough in a epic bg??? Small bgs ok whatever dont need to argue about it. But why would that be enough for Horde to steamroll us in a 35/40 man bg.
A: they lie about being 5 People to begin with and have more than 1 group
B: They queue their second accounts into our queue which is why there seems to be a lot of maps with 3 top dps no middlefield rest bottom non existent performance
And c: Bot Rotation and they shift to alliance early afternoon till midnight or so.
I don’t care about the opposition, some of my friends and I were able to defeat certain premaders, my issue is the teammates that lack team spirit you’re forced to play with.
Funny you mention it. Because I had 2 games in a row with you yesterday (on my gnome priest Schatzi). First was an Ashran, where you left after the first team fight, See screenshot below. https://ibb.co/TxNpCJ7W
(I stayed in, I don’t mind to lose! Plus it’s kinda annoying for ppl to join a game in progress, mostly a lost one, but I guess you don’t think so).
Well, next game I got you again but then you were on Horde side, you queued up with some “friends” I suppose, looking at the names. There Alliance won. Complete randoms, few calls were needed, nobody needed leader status for it. Was a nice game! See Screenshot:
https://ibb.co/ymrM63wD
As long as they match equally sized and numbers of grps against eachother, fine by me. For the rest, I don’t need it.
I don’t approve of syncing.
Their post was about a different topic entirely and they are factually correct on the issue.
It’s also a fact that it has become the norm for solo player extremists lately to go into “lalala I can’t hear you” mode when they run out of arguments.
Like the solo player extremists who say groups can get fd and harass / insult everyone who doesn’t play solo?
That would be unfair to the syncers because they aren’t like this. They might be playing on easy mode, but on a personal level, they are much more chill and pleasant to talk to than the extremists and generally mind their own business.
I own war game central and I will do with it as I see fit.
You don’t get a say in this.
Atm there are many members, but low user engagement and event participation.
I will probably try to revive the project and turn it into a community with fewer members and high user engagement and kick all the inactive members.
But not until next season at least.
The only thing antisocial here is you telling other people how they should or shouldn’t play the game. How would you like it if I told you you can’t queue for bgs with Jay anymore because I have a problem with it?
The stance of the devs is groups are allowed, so I’m cool with it.
I do everything from 1-5 players in casual bgs.
Aka: playing the game as intended.
And I don’t get upset when other players join with a different group size than I do, because this is what I signed up for…
This happens sometimes, but not always.
The alliance is somewhat more unruly than the horde on average.
Strategy callers should still win the majority of rounds in either faction.
You bring up “lalala I can’t hear you” when talking about others, while it has been your attitude on the forum for a long time whenever something contradicts your own experience or point of view.
It’s such a bad joke, if you try to be funny, try better.
This “extremists” thing is starting to get really annoying.
Do you understand that EVEN IF some people are a bit extreme when writing against premades on the forum, it doesn’t just come out of nowhere?
Some of them are just completely fed up, after years of dealing with the same issues and getting zero support.
There have been thousands of complaints and suggestions on how to improve the game mode for everyone.
Even back in 2012, Blizzards statement was that they were looking into ways to improve the queue system, but nothing ever happened.
At some point, people run out of options and come to the forums just to vent their frustration.
At the same time, many premaders and syncers only come up here to complain about those who are complaining about them (because they’re ruining the game experience for them).
Or they just come to provoke and troll.
This disgusting behavior is just as extreme and toxic.
They on purpose fuel the hate with that kind of crap, because it’s not even enough for them to only ruin the game for others, they also need to tilt them even more outside of it.
If you personally don’t have an issue with premades in the game, then just stay out of these topics and let the people write who do.
But don’t tell people they can’t complain or express their anger here.
Try to understand where all of this is coming from instead of judging that it is like this now at this point.
And if someone ends up with a forum ban, that’s their choice.
I know it is a common trait for you, but why are you generalizing them now exactly?
A lot of them aren’t nice at all, and I can give you many examples if you want.
Some are maybe chill, as long as they get to do whatever they want and laugh at the people whose games they just ruined.
I would really love to see how things would look if they couldn’t do that anymore, if they had to play like solo players or small groups, and actually had to deal with losing 50% of their games, getting gy camped themselves all game, etc.
Let’s see how “chill” they would be then.
Maybe rename the community into what it is?
“LF/LFM PREMADE 1,2,3”
Would be a nice, more fitting name, or?
First of all, comparing two people who live together, sit next to each other, and most importantly… DONT ruin any bgs for anyone,
to 5-man stacks that, in 99% of cases, have NOTHING to do with “friends” or being social, and just spam “LFM 2/5 BIG DPS OR HEALER”.
Not a smart move.
Second, you are CONSTANTLY on this forum telling people what they should think, what they should care about, and HOW they should play the game.
Do you not see the problem with that? xD
Ofc not. But some people try to pretend they dont. I would pretty much say most ppl here have said it in one way or other.
You have done it. I have done it. Fistus have done it. Jay have done it. I would say its pretty normal.
No, I don’t put people on ignore, I say my experience is different. For example I sometimes say that I encounter sync premades infrequently and don’t perceive them as that much of a big deal and that some people exaggerate the problem.
A position you among others vehemently attack me for.
No, the extremists are annoying. Not the people who point out that they aren’t reasonable anymore.
There is a solution in the game for them that they aren’t willing to take.
A mode where they can play balanced solo battlegrounds.
A mode which they don’t play, but the people who they accuse of being to bad to play solo, they play the mode and they do well in it. Quite ironic.
No, they are harassing and insulting us and we defend against the accusations and tell them what they need to do to play a fair solo game with good balance.
Furthermore, they want to drive us out of the only mode where we can play in small groups with friends without a huge organizational effort and inviting strangers.
You know what’s better than being angry?
Taking the solution on offer so you get what you want.
You are unhappy because you lose to groups often in random bg? You want to play balanced and easily accessible solo bgs? Try blitz. There are no groups to ruin your day and the rewards are better.
But if they then still refuse to try the solution, still insult us and still try to drive groups out of random bgs, my patience ends. At that point, they don’t want to have fun at the game or have their problems solved. At that point, they just like to see themselves in the victim role. I have little respect for such people.
You are not the person to decide who is allowed to play together and who is not.
You don’t have to marry the people you play with.
Everyone is free to team up with anyone for whatever reason up to a limit of 5 players and queue together.
Over the years, I’ve gotten to know many people whom I’ve first met in bgs.
We learned more about each other and started doing stuff outside of the game.
Because some people here insist on doing things in pretty dumb ways and get upset about things that could have been avoided, had they chosen a smarter approach.
Like queuing up for a mode where groups are allowed and getting upset that they might meet players in groups, while there is a mode available for them where they wouldn’t face any of these issues. Seriously?
Or queuing up for a mode where there are no requirements to join and then getting upset about players who don’t pull their weight.
Or getting upset about how unreliable your random teammates are, but refusing to bring reliable teammates with you into the match, which the game allows you to do, demonizing the players who do bring reliable teammates with them (groups) instead.
Do things stupidly and get rewarded with problems.
Do things smartly and you will win and have fun.
That is fair, I afked out because I played several games in a row with complicated situations that sometimes, personally, I can’t be bothered to turn things around, another reason was because everyone quitted, I kinda felt like I did not want to apply 110% of my energy on that scenario. On the second round however, the lost game, I somewhat enjoyed it more because everybody was actually talking out solutions along with my calls “every resser, try to snipe down enemy vehicles” “grab RPggs rockets if possible” but the Alliance was more superior in terms of damage and won fair and square the point I’m making is that I appreciate when a team is trying in a game that victory can’t be achieved.
You mean the duo blitz?
The blitz you said you duod to carry people?
I would not really call that a solo bracket.
Blitz is also rated, did you forget? What is the difference between casual and rating in terms of mentality? I rly hope you dont believe theres no difference.
This same argument can be applied to those who tell us that if we want to go in a group we should queue for RBG, and compare going in a group of 2-5 with a group of 10.
Depends how you see it. When people brag they have a community and alot of friends, then its confusing why they are not doing RBGs. Quite sure I were in a guild that had like 15-20ppl in it that I did RBGs with before. If you truly wanted to do RBGs you can do it.
But its impossible for solos to only face other solos in BGs.
Blitz would have been a solo bracket if it was only solo in it. Because you can duo que into it, I would say its pretty far-fetched to call it solo.
But I have already given suggestions to fix part of the issues people have, without removing premades. I never had issues with actual friends playing together anyway so.
Some ppl just tend to call anyone they play with as “friend” because it sounds better.
The problem is that here we have gone from “synced bgs” to bash 5 stacks of “friends” (And it makes me laugh that they put the word friends in quotes, as if that were the strangest thing in the world).
Even if they weren’t, they have the right to play in a group or meet other people to play bgs.
Because alot of ppl say friends to anyone they play with.
Its kinda like the hype some ppl had with FB where they accepted anyone as their “friend” and bragged about it.
Sure, ppl have the right to play with their friends or whoever.
But you also cant deny peoples request to be able to play with only solo players.
Which a casual blitz would have been great for with no duo. Would also been a good tool to practice for rated blitz.
I can do it as long as the result is that I can no longer play in a group, like those requests of “only being able to queue up for normal BG individually.” “if you want to play in group, queue to rated”
So you say you can deny other people but they cannot deny you?
Most solo people want a mode for solos or more guaranteed equal premades on both sides. It doesnt matter if you get it 50% of the time, they want it 100% of the time. Thats the difference.
That the players take it more seriously, come prepared and try to win more.
A plus if you ask me.
Caring about your rating on the other hand is optional.
I rarely have 20 players online at the same time who I would call friends who want to play RBGs at the same time. More like 1-3 players at a time.
So we play casual bgs and blitz if we are only 2.
I am in contact with a guild that hosts RBGs too, sometimes they invite me when they need a healer. They invited me twice so far this season. I couldn’t participate because I was busy. Last season I did between 30-50 rounds. But they too don’t do them as often as they used to now that blitz has made the bracket obsolete.
Where did the duos hurt you, exactly?
How do they make the games imbalanced?
And how does it make sense to then play the mode where instead of duos, 5 player squads are allowed to join together?
If I disliked groups categorically, I would play the mode where the allowed group size is smaller.
Also, whenever I play blitz solo, I barely notice the duos and whether they are present at all or not.
the point I’m making is that I appreciate when a team is trying in a game that victory can’t be achieved.