Rich, not rich.
Bow down and exit.
Woah, slow down, Iām not bowing you climb down from your high horse you funny person
My horse is less high than you, brother.
Its not defending toxic practices.
It also knows better than to chase semantics in simple sentences. Kekw.
What toxic practices? Let me remind you that you had a tantrum in a Gilneas match because we all went to Waterworks and you refused to defend Lighthouse, or even provide any form of support to our team mate who was defending it, and afk out because we didnāt play it your way, so donāt talk to me about toxicity when you too do the same thing
Nice fanfiction.
Why wouldnt i want the team to apply pressure on WW ?
It doesnāt matter, I remember you from that game, keep pretending it never happened.
Even if it did, this is a thread for Premade discussion.
So again, you fail to grasp how discussions work.
You bring all sorts of nonsense, from blaming the players themselves who feel betrayed by the contract that RANDOM battlegrounds are supposed to offer to spewing nonsense about what people should do and how they should play in a place thats supposed to be THE BEGINING OF THEIR PVP PRACTICE (im implying that theres no other safe place for beginners to practice aside from rbgs) to jumping to some other stuff that have nothing to do with the thread.
I really dont care if i even did or didnt do that.
Ill do you a favour and ill say i did it.
Thats how much irrelevent what you bring to this thread is.
So we can then appreciate, by your logic that the issue does not revolve around premades only, it is the negative mindset of the general playerbase that KNOWS there is a premade, yet still queues for it to then AFK out for no reason because āpremade, we loseā
It is you that isnāt looking at the bigger picture, you only care about yourself, but who cares about the others am I right?
I care only about myself ?
G, im the last person thats truly obscured by the premades. Im a stealth class, i do what i want anyway. Like i like to brawl the most , meet people in 1v1 , 1v2 scenarios and thats it for me. I dont need honor, i dont need anything.
If I cared only about myself half of the premade threads wouldnt be created by me and I wouldnt have involved myself into them so heavily as I did in the past.
What you offer as a solution is idealistic and realistically wont happen.
The only way this can be adressed is via Blizzard.
Yet you are here.
I am here of pure virtue and sentimentality for the community and battlegrounds.
No you arenāt, lol.
Yes he is.
(I am an empath.)
Thatās fine, I donāt mind that, yet ;
Iām only asking few questions, not even attacking to said person, and this is the kind of responses I get, which no one talks about by the way, my point still stands, and we get these kind of behaviour to those who refuse to play with pugs simply because we too have a right, and it is encouraged by the game. Iām trying to understand their points but it seems to me thereās a habit of arrogance in their replies.
I joined the discussion by asking some questions, and the person comes out with guns and blazing completely disregarding my opinions or thoughts about the matter not to mention being rude towards me when I did not even threatened, or insult anyone.
Every opinions matter, but if you donāt enjoy facing premades, and rather play alone, then mate, go play solo queue modes, or better, do some PvE, thereās no shame on it, really. If that doesnāt work, well, figure that out.
If a group of 5 people queues for a 10 player BG, is that premade? (Thatās 50% of the team)
There is an argument for calling that a premade because 50% of the team is pre-organized. I would just call it a 5 stack or a group of 5 players. If you ask me, 5-stacking in random bg should come with a power penalty to discourage stacking strong players in large groups for a random bg.
At least it would make more sense than calling a group of 2 or 3 players or even a lone strategy caller a premade in the context of epic bgs.
I know you like to equate all forms of groups, but there is a huge difference between joining epic bgs in a group of 2-3 players or multiple synchronized groups with 15 players in total.
Thatās all I wanted to know. The rest is a substitution of concepts and a play on terms for the purpose of justifying oneself. We both know this, but for the general public it may pass for justification.
If you like to play with terms, wellā¦
Why are you writing all this, I donāt understand. Just recently, we, ESPECIALLY FOR YOU and for the forum participants, demonstrated that there is NO difference between playing one group of 5 people and 2 groups of 5 people. The outcome is one, 100% victory. I explained 2345677 times that several groups are a guarantee of our victory against other premades, but for some reason you ignore it. Why are you writing that there is a huge difference? Do you want me to show you again? How many do you need? 20-30 times?
Yes, I equate it and I have all the grounds and facts for this. And I canāt call it differently, because calling it differently is a substitution of concepts
No its not. 3 group members is not the same thing as 15 group members. Syncers have win rates over 90%, even the worst and most talentless among them. In a small group you can get like 60-80% wins, maybe up to 85% if you always play in a full 5 stack.
Up for an experiment? Play epic bgs for 20 rounds. Donāt participate in sync premades, small groups are allowed. Try to win 95% like you do when you play in a Larkus premade. Send me the results. I bet you canāt do it. Sure you will win more than you lose because your friends are above average epic bg players and know what they have to do to win, but you wonāt win 100% and the rounds you win, you will often have to hardcarry for your team.
Larkus has lost to me once on Alterac when he played with 1 group.
He hasnāt lost to me when he plays in syncs.
When I fight other strategy callers who lead random teams, people like Drex, Emeg or Zado, I can defeat them in around 50% of rounds where they are my opponent. I pretty much never beat Zenie or Larkus. Why do you think that is?
Itās player quality. Sync premades have both strong dps / hps and reliably obedient players who follow calls and know what to do.
Small groups or lone strategy callers donāt have that or they donāt have enough of it.