The common sense that you’re unable to queue with more than 5 players at a time? Yet you people seem to bypass that by queue syncing. If it was intended, you would be able to simply form a 40 man raid and hit queue.
Can you do that? Nope.
As the old saying goes - Common sense is not so common. 
Soon, soon, soon…
I’ve been reading this for 20 years now, but nothing has changed yet.
Yeah, nothing at all? Do you see the same people over and over? That means that player participation is so low you rarely see different players on the opposite team.
But please, go ahead and live in your personal bubble detached from reality.
I don’t care what the enemy team’s nicknames are. EBG wait time is 4 min. and that’s great. There is an enemy and that’s the most important thing, right? They haven’t ended for 20 years, that’s what I wanted to convey to you.
then stop putting yourself in this position. You do this every time.
->someone complains about premade → you start yapping how you’re not premading.
Sounds like a cope. Idk.
Nobody talks about “legality” but rather “demoralization”.
Also theres a clear santiment from Blizzard themselves that proves that they did not intent for you to go into a battleground with more than 5 of your friends and thats the system limit itself.
Otherwise, why would there be a system limit of 5 players if Blizzard do not mind you going in with 30 people ?
The restrictions apply to the number of players in one group, but not to the number of groups, right? The point is that several groups queue at the same time manually, this process is not automated, without third-party software. Blizz technically cannot allow one group to be in the queue, and the other not. In addition, Blizz created a favorable system for this in the form of multi-thousand communities, the functions of which allow you to track which of the players queued for EBG, by the way, some take advantage of this, claiming that they are only in the queue for one group, lol … But no one thinks about how many more people from the community queued with him, right? Think.
The most important thing is that you fail to see the big picture, since you prioritize your personal satisfaction by not adhering to restrictions which were put in place for a reason.
That’s exactly why there will be countless forum threads on this topic until Blizzard decides to stop this exploiting behavior.
Before I came the topic was dead, 1-3 messages a day, what countless messages are we talking about? Don’t you think you’re exaggerating? “soon” the players will run out (we’ve been waiting for 20 years, they haven’t run out) now here are “countless” messages…
No, I don’t think I’m exaggerating:
Those are only few examples from last 30 days.
Most people when they stop having fun, they don’t come here to complain—they just stop playing.
Since you’re always in BGs, you’ve probably noticed how often you run into the same people, right? That’s a pretty clear sign that the player base has dropped a lot.
The pool of players is so small now that the chance of running into premades is way higher than 50/50. They’ve basically ruined casual PvP, and the sad part is, you don’t even seem to care. Which is ironic since you seem to spend the vast majority of your spare time playing it.
Well, apparently we have different ideas about “countless topics”, for me it’s clearly more than 4 in 1 month, lol…
I only watched the last 3, only out of respect for you…
So, what did I see there… Prepaid 40 people…
Well, you understand, yes, that there is no point in reading further. Such premades do not exist and you know it.
And I remember one topic, it is fake, because a person came to complain on the forum because he lost to one group of 5 people.
Talk to this guy, he rarely plays against premades, he will help you
Outright lying sadly. I’ll take some screenshots over the weekend of every time I see the infamous premaders just to prove a point. Not that it would make a difference to premaders delusions. The type of people to have their lies debunked, and then double down on their lies.
Also -
When people complain they face only premades in epic bgs (99%), these numbers can only be due to misidentification. Sync premades aren’t that common. (Not speaking of epic bg brawls where they are more common, just in regular epic bgs)
Premade is a term for a pre-organized team, is it appropriate to use it when less than 10% of the opponent team are pre-organized?
No, it’s ridiculous.
2-3 players are not a premade, just a group.
3x 5 groups synchronizing their invites, that is a premade.
The only players who run sync premades in Europe are Larkus and Zenie.
People even throw the term premade around if the opponents play a non-standard strategy. Play wintergrasp offense where the opponents play broken temple defense instead of sunken and you can be sure someone in your team will yell “premade”.
It doesn’t take a premade to go to broken, not even a small group, just one person to tell the team to defend at broken instead of sunken.
Why is it important to clear up misidentification?
Because when the term premade gets thrown around, players become demoralized and they might think they are up against a sync premade. A sync premade is impossible to beat for a random team. In reality, they are just facing a shot caller or a small group of strong players that are very much beatable.
How often have I played for the alliance and the team started panicking at the sight of a player like Emegenceree, who is just a strong boomie who does strategy calls for his team (same for Zado), or Laota, who is just a strong healer?
“Omg, opponents are a premade, we are doomed.”
Completely unnecessary.
All it takes to beat these players is to remain disciplined.
Less hysteria, more fighting.
then stop responding to something that refers to premades instead of a groupie.
It seems to me that youre the one needing clarification what premade means.
When you imply that what I do has anything to do with premades, it is simply wrong and adds to the confusion.
Can we agree to only use the word premade in the context of epic bgs when we mean synchronized premades with multiple groups, e.g Larkus’ premade?
Define “demoralization” because it seems to me there is a lot more to it that many people don’t discuss about simply because many people only discuss the relevant stuff that fits in their agenda, disregarding how others feel about the issues that aren’t discussed on here, such as, how people are conveniently disrespecting those who are trying to bring a victory with the following excuse ; “It’s just epic battlegrounds bruh” “who cares dude” “omg lose, this lead is useless” followed up with an array of whispers from those who aren’t even trying or providing any feedback simply because they think they can rush to Drek’tar whilst ignoring the calls of seasoned / veteran / experienced players who alert the masses that there will be an ‘ambush’ on said location regardless of which battleground it is.
I tell you what is demoralizing is when you see certain players who refuse to make a difference who constantly quit the game every single session because they are unable to beat the game, when they could do exactly the same thing by organizing a strong 5 man premade and call the shots in making a potential comeback if done properly, because there is nothing more infuriating than to enter a battleground mid-session because some person refused to deal with the issue when they knew that the bracket is ‘unfair’ I still play actively on Epic Battlegrounds alone and I still face notable players that stack a good 5 man premade, and even less and always play to the end with some exceptions, but when you see the same people afking out when they know they are 95% chance going to meet a premader, I label that as sabotage and should be addressed as well, if many of you want ‘premades to get banned’ for playing together as a group.
I’d be interested to read your response to this.
Bro, im not gonna define anything to you specifically.
Matter of fact im not even gonna read that mental diarrhea.
You’re all delulu.
Bro literally thinks philosophy is asking someone to “define” a word in their sentence while ignoring its obviously simple concept.
You dont know what “demoralization” means ? You didnt understan my simple sentence?
I feel like you dont belong on a forum, g.
Just my opinion.
Rich coming from you.