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You can do +10s in like 485 gear.
3 days 9 hour at 70 LVL .
Spend 2 days doing M+ and reached 514 ilvl…
Not gonna enter another M+ no matter what .
I tried plenty of game Rune of Magic-Lineage-FF ++ but the current playerbase at least at the lvl m2-6 is one of the worse .
It’s like those people want to get boosted , nothing else.
Also Had my key at +6 and an easy one Ruby*
2 times people died to that Dragon breath… and on the second boss …Yep i found that 2k rating is like 300 rate nowadays.
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If you buy a boost/carry, sure, I guess? Don’t troll. No one with IQ above 90 would take this statement seriously. Andies with 500ish ilvl die every 3 min in any 8+ LOL
If the enchant for 20 g adds 0,8% dps it’s worth it, especially if you are pepega geared and useless - at least pretend you can be less useless.
So you prefer to be carried by 4 people in M+. That’s fine.
But IDK how anyone prefers M+ to raiding for these reasons
- just today I had tank leave in neltharus 9+ before last boss because he overpulled, died, refused to elaborate. 30 mins down the drain with no reward or consolation whatsoever. in this time - i’d kill 2-3 heroic bosses with any pug with crests and vault slot at least, and maybe winning something. heck. in 30 mins i’d be on 2nd mythic boss in a pug.
- every boss you have 0-5 roll chances for gear/mog/whatever. in M+ you have like 20% chance to get an item. Most of the time nothing interesting as tier sets or fun trinkets aren’t all that in the M+ this season.
- it’s easier to perform poorly in a raid without repercussions than perform poorly in M+. And it works both sides - having a pepega in a raid doesn’t hurt as much as havine a pepega in M+… god forbid, two of them.
- You can go into raid, kill one boss, refuse to elaborate and leave - in M+ u can’t even take a toilet break mid run lol
My educated guess is that people’s anxiety makes them unwilling to do the raids but IDK really. I don’t hate M+ as I do them every season of course. While they are fun/challenging once you do them with any sensible group… but they are extremely annoying to start/get group/avoid affixes etc etc.
M+'s only redeeming quality is free myth track item every week for a fairly easy content. Otherwise I wouldn’t bother with that.
And as a final comment.
Both raid and M+ are a “mindless” PvE content. Saying you just do one and not another is kinda… self-crippling in terms of gear progression. I might dislike one or the other but I do both to get gear. And IDK why anyone would just exclude themselves from either part. Especially that first 4-6 bosses of any raid any patch are kind of free even with baddies in raid…
Pretty sure you’ve called me an andy
I have no doubt decent players could do what I did with far less gear.
Oh no! A group of 2,8±3k rio players on 500ish alts with 4-sets who did the dungeon prolly 200 times this expac has completed a 10+ in a bullion season!!! OH NO, I WAS SO WRONG HOW CAN I RECOVER.
lol no. keep coping.
(I specifically implied randos u can find in LFM. proving that some exped players can do shenanigans on low ilvl is not really proving any point or deflecting anything I said)
But yeah, you are an andy, considering everything you say. You might be high rio and whatnot but you are an Andy-by-soul.
That was the first or second week with their mains. Accept the facts.
Nothing wrong with being wrong. We all are from time to time.
Maybe when you mature somewhat you’ll accept it with grace.
That’s what we did on the first day of the season pretty much.
Hm, so you were on mains, skilled with the chars, and this somehow proves that a random pepe Andy from LFM with 700 rio and 497 ilvl Can normally complete 10+. Huh, interesting.
And I killed eranog mythic with 490 ilvl on day 1 of season 4 but it doesn’t prove that a group of 500 randos would succeed now, you know? Nice you show off something but connecting the dots isn’t exactly your forte.
But I know you from these forums long enough to know you aren’t the brightest stars, so, uh, ok? The usual from you 
PS: You said something along lines “anyone with 485 can do 10+”.
Meanwhile as a proof you post a week 1 run with full tier set on high rio character mains. like omegalul KEKW lmao rofl
Absolutely not. I played resto druid, something I hadn’t really played since season 3 of SL. I died several times because I screwed up as a result of that.
People I played with weren’t known to me except one of the DPS.
I’m pretty sure you know your run is an outlier and most people you find in LFM with bad ilvl and rio are most likely just bad and Are bad as I could see a lot. If someone with 500 ilvl, over the course of 9+ dies 17 times and his deaths are 17 out of 21 total deaths, I could say he is probably at fault and over his level.
I had the mount in x1 week from gold no more mythic+ needed for me
I stick to pvp and other stuff, mythic+ is a waste of time besides mount.
And yea i am rank 13 in solo shuffle pvp so i am not bad or anything just waste of time i say.
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You pug exclusively, your experience will be worse. More news as it breaks.
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I assure you that I don’t exclusively pug.
But even pugging 1 person in a 4 friend group can make your experience miserable if you happen to pug a boosted pleb. Even if you time a run with some dodo dying every 2 minutes, it just stinks.
I can’t believe I have to explain 2+2=4 to you but then again, it’s you so it shouldn’t suprise me. Being an established forum addict doesn’t make you right or smart after all.
I mean come on, I was talking about pugging and you try to prove me wrong showing some tailor made high rio runs on kinda geared week 1 chars?? What kind of troll is this. Do you think I’m gonna fall for it? jfc.
I pug a lot.
I have a relatively good success rate pugging.
doubt.
You can’t prove this - raider io won’t feature failed runs. You’d have to have logs to see if your timed or mistimed runs were miserable cuz of group or 1-2 pugged people.
So it’s an unsubstantiated claim but keep trying.
OTOH I also had clean pug runs, but it doesn’t prove ANYTHING.
Try not to get too mad there champ. Wouldn’t want you to eat another month ban.
If you choose a “boosted pleb” you need to learn to vet better. And if one person can ruin your +8 then I dunno, its pretty easy to 2 chest some dungeons even with people perma licking the floor.
But sure, complain about pugging. Or do like people who can form social bonds and don’t pug. Easy solution - if you don’t jabber so much that even random pugs beg you to shut your pie hole. keklol or something
No, but there’s been very few disbands compared to the amount of keys I’ve timed or gone overtime in, most disbands have happened above +11. I’ve timed… Let’s see some quick maths here:
Just on my priest alone: 125 keys. I’ve done 9 keys over time, about half of them were caused by people DCing and we decided to finish for vault or gear.
On my druid I’ve timed 52 keys.
On my paladin I’ve timed 60 keys.
Then I have some other alts I didn’t bother to check.
and yet last time i said i did +9s on my alt priest in 490 ilvl you called me a troll kek
i exclusively pug.
I have several chars usually above 2.7k rio (i mostly stop there because i cba)
I would guess my success rate is above 95%
- it is key how you chose people
- in potato keys like 8 or 9s, you can carry pretty decent if you are not bad.
do i have garbage dps that do as much dps as me as healer? yes, but all dungeons are easily done with 3 people in time on thag level anyways.
- be sure to have an experienced tank at 505 ilvl or above and get 1 decent dps player and you are gucci (if you play healer that is) Plenty of alt tanks with 3k rio and lower ilvl around usually. but many people prefer to invite thay 2k 520 ilvl dh that jumps in and dies and always require heals.
pugging takes exp how to create and choose groups.
certain dungeons require dispels and i already inform people they will get no heal if they dont dispel diseases till they learn
other dungeons like HoI i just refuse to play with 3 squishy classes. I also inform them to use their freedoms for drakes (same for uldaman). most people just have no clue.
luckily i still can heal through if they fail but then i cannot snack while healing
also again, you can easy pug keys in low ilvl.
I just semi geared my holy pala
As SV Hunter i have do try 30 min to get into M2/M3. Then its frustration because of my low DPS
Got the KSM in S1-3.
S4 KSM is not realistic
most of those people who complain wouldnt get in now either.
reason is simple - even in contnt lul nobody wants low geared low score players.
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