Everyone is playing classic, Retail boring

Classic Wrath was a failure though. Even TBC Classic was considerably more popular. Classic Vanilla of course absolute destroyed both TBC and Wrath.

That being said, people are trolling if they say M+ is better than it was during late Legion or S4 of BFA. Or they are the top 1 % that want gear gatekept.

Fine, remove the AP, but M+ was so much better back then.

As you say. Easy to play. Lots of loot. Every spec felt overpowered in their own way (including tanks importantly).

I´d give anything for Legion back ahhhh. Sadly I won´t be able to play probably by the time Legion Classic is finally released.

That was mostly novelty, “Ooh, play WoW as it was right at the start!”, usually said by people who haven’t played back then, shortly followed by the stark realization that players (And add-ons) got a lot better since 2005, and content from back then is easy to players nowadays (Raids getting facerolled the day of release), and a lot of the old times were padded out with bad systems and even worse class design/balance.

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That’s your opinion. I disagree.

Euh, are you seriously comparing the content from a single patch to the content of 4 expansions??? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

If not, and you mean ‘any single one patch for one of the first 4 expansions’, then: You are factually wrong.

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This is what players like.

They like that the game is easy so they can just have fun with their mates on discord as they clear the loot pinata raid.

Even the re-release of Classic is performing better than Wrath Classic.

M+ in Legion was massively popular because it was just loot pinata dungeons too. It´s a video game.

Classic and retail playerbases are incompatible. Their expectations are incompatible.

Any sort of merging would just drive the majority of remaining playerbase away.

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No thx, its garbage.

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each to their own, I find that it’s your comment without argument that is “garbage” (but it’s funny)

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Cool

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I don’t agree with that general statement - although, I agree with a form of it; I’ll explain:

6 months isn’t too long, but as the season progresses we should get some nice updates for the game - updates that are connected to the expansion and to the current season and its storyline(s).

If they do that; 6 months is not too long. Two patches throughout those 6 months should be enough.

The thing with season 1 of TWW is: They haven’t done that. Yes, we got 2 patches, but almost nothing in those patches is related to TWW or any of its storylines. So it feels like we’re just waiting and waiting for more of that, while we get ‘side content’ to keep us entertained: But as we’ve seen; for a lot of people that tactic doesn’t work.

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small patch could be faster, a major patch should last 3/4 months, like any other competing game

You can only re emerge old classic servers so many times before even the biggest nostalgia shills get bored. This 20 year old game was never mean to run the same way Blizzard even thought about shutting it down all the way back in TBC. Get a grip.

Nonsense.

Anyway; you clearly refuse to talk about that topic in any sort of objective way, so nevermind.

Because for that purpose … Classic exists (and is continuing into new expansions every n years)? So by now it’s pretty much Retail 2.0?

NO. You got classic servers for that.

I participated in discussions like this for years. In the end, the people that said “vanilla was better” won the discussion and got their own servers.

But the price they payed is that the argument “make retail more like classic/vanilla” is dead and makes no sense.

You mention just 20% of the content of the new patch. If you dont want to do the rest of the 80%, its OK. Go play classic. Nobody is stoping you.

Or how about you do what most people do. Simply take a break from WoW. That is also good.

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Correct. But its classic what hold its numbers while retail just goes offline every 2 months. I knwo what game I want to play.

Got proof to back that silly claim up with? :sweat_smile:

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You’re a really silly person.

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I don’t get these “classic is dead cause retail” and “retail is dead cause classic” threads. If you like one, play that one and let the others play what they like in peace. If you like both, play both.

I like Classic, but I don’t have the time to spend my whole gaming time walking from point A to point B and doing half a quest. I envy the people that do. If I was younger, I would play Classic, but as it is Classic is just too time consuming in terms of getting stuff done.

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Are they though?

:roll_eyes:

It’s telling that 9 out of 10 times, it’s a Classic player asking for Retail to be changed to their liking.

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