Before people storm in to tell me “IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE DRAC’THYR FORM DON’T PLAY IT?” - I do like the form but I am a transmog enthusiast in every sense possible. I change my transmog often, every day. There are other issues as well such as not being able to transmog Visage and Drac’thyr separately (which I personally find to be the biggest problem right now).
I don’t know if anyone else has mentioned this but you could fix the issue of being in Visage at all times by only momentarily appearing in your Drac’thyr form when using Empowered spells (for example).
Essentially when you finish casting the spell you revert back to Visage automatically, immediately. With Hover, I mean, I think you can stay in Visage due to the Glide animation being some sort of cloud. If not this, I’m sure there is a solution to staying in Visage at all times regardless of spell, probably.
Visage has amazing customization but you rarely get to show it or utilize it in any combat-related situation.
Feel free to share your thoughts if you’d like. <3
Sorry, I think you answered your question in your first line.
What you have to remember is that Dracythrs are Dragons first, Visage 2nd. Where as Demonhunters (which this suggestion commonly gets compared to) is Elf First, Demon 2nd.
So going into Dragon form for certain abilities just wouldn’t make sense, it would be best to stay in Dracthyr form for the entirety of combat rather than waste (imaginary) energy switching back an forth.
This is why you have Chosen Identity talent which automatically switches you when Combat has finished.
If anything, we should be encouraging Blizz put more transmog on the Dracthyr form itself.
I do agree and I am also aware of the answers, but discussions are good regardless. There are different solutions.
While it may be true that Drac’thyrs are dragons and Visage serves as a secondary form, players who are passionate about transmogrification may prioritize aesthetics and customization over minor gameplay inconveniences. I am not up-to-date with what people feel in regards to Visage nowadays but last time I checked a lot of people wanted Visage as a permanent alternative form (or something by the lines of it).
Chosen Identity does offer a solution for switching between forms after combat, it does not address the issue of players wanting to utilize their character’s appearance and transmogrification during combat, but a solution (to an extent) is by adding more to the Drac’thyr form. Encouraging Blizzard to add more transmogrification options to the Drac’thyr form is a valid suggestion and I wholeheartedly agree that this should take a priority. Like you said, they are a dragon first and their Visage is a secondary form.
However, it does not necessarily address the concerns raised by those who wish to have separate transmogrification settings for the Visage and Drac’thyr forms, which seems to be a very tedious and chaotic limit. It is primarily a dragon but it should not mean you rule out the other part of it in some cases. I see people hating 2H weapons showing on their Drac’thyr back, whereas I (and others as well) prefer it to be shown. There are two sides of a coin to a lot of Drac’thyr-related things.
whilst others consider the your need a minor gameplay inconvenience.
I want my Gnome to be tall, my Vulpera to be hairless. I want my Dragon to be Humanoid.
I think what you’re highlighting is a very minor need for a few players that aren’t so interested in the game or reasoning behind these decisions.
For someone like myself, who really is into the game, these limitations are part of the Immersion. So I would only really want to see Dracthyr using Dracthyr Abilities. It would make no sense as to a Humanoid form launching fireballs out of their mouths. And yes seeing another player do that would affect my game. Just like I would never want to see a Warlock in Retribution armor.
I appreciate where you’re coming from. But you are playing a Dragon based class, you should expect to be a Dragon.
But having said that alot of Dracthyr abilities are usable in Visage form already. The ones that make sense, such as Living Flame and Emerald Blossom, their Dispels and along with alot of their Healings spells aswell.
But when it comes to attacks like Pyre or Flame Breath, it makes sense to be in Dragonform, and to remain in Dragonform until the Combat is done.
There’s a reason why people say:
Because it is what it is.
Just enjoy what Blizzard has designed and presented to you.
Just to touch on the last part. It is fair and factual to say that the biggest problem is the lack of possible transmog for the dragon and that it should be the main focus.
There are those that enjoy the class but might dislike the race.
If you want a tall gnome you can play Human, if you want a hairless Vulpera… uhh, might be tricky. It would go against the foundation of the race itself. Drac’thyr incentivizes two different things (but focused more on one) whereas Vulpera is sincerely a singular race built around fur (unless you’re looking to hope for one of those naked cats). I assume this was an example to mirror what I was mentioning.
I see where you are coming from as well and I agree with what the things you say except for one thing. I don’t believe (my opinion) that it’s the right mindset to “enjoy and accept whatever Blizzard throws at you” (to paraphrase a bit) - there is room for improvement and the majority voice will usually see desired changes to what Blizzard presents, if pushed enough.
Regardless, I do enjoy the class and race but with refining touches it can be better; whatever those may end up being.
Only solution to this would be to make transmogs visable in both Dracthyr and visage form honestly.
Cause if you made the visage form visable at all times. You would have a huge playerbase crying about it not being the same in their dragon form. Who don’t want to look like a Dragon elf/ human…
I honestly think the only draw back of Dragonform is that it hides most of your Transmog. I fully agree with you on that part. Whilst I understand going through the entire back catalogue of Mail armor and resizing it might be a big task, there is no reason why the Dracthyr specific Sets (such as the Tier sets) can’t be made for this form.
Well Dracthyr only use their Visage form to make it easier to communicate with humanoids.
Personally, I don’t like the visage form and would promote their removal. But the Lore makes sense for them to exist. Also, I suspect they will allow us to use other Races for our visage in the future. That seems like an unnecassary limitation to keep us with these ugly models.
If I wrote a book, although feedback would be useful. I wouldn’t expect someone to come along and re-write half of the story of the book because the new Character didn’t suit them.
Blizzard have written a wonderful story about the Dracthyr. And even these little limitations such as Combat in Dracthyr form, are part of that story telling. Even if its visual detail and not necessarily written down.
Another example of that kind of story telling is with the Gnolls. You might attack 1 or 2 gnolls, but then 2 or 3 more will come out of Stealth and join the fight. It gives the sense of them being in Packs, with others always on the look out. It was something a nice little detail I enjoyed in the early days of the expansion.
Honestly, just let dracthyr wear regular transmog?
They’re 95% the female worgen/draenei skeleton. Put a back piece on them that sticks 5mm above the default textures and excuses exit holes for the wings. Everyone’s happy.
(Including me. I am sad that my evoker has only the barbershop visuals. None of them fit my mood most of the time.)
First and foremost, it is important to recognize that players have the right to request visual enhancements for their preferred class, as many individuals spend a considerable amount of time playing that specific class. While it may make sense to stay in dragon form for certain abilities, playing a gigantic dragon with limited transmog options can be aesthetically displeasing.
Moreover, there are instances of awesomeness in switching visage form and dragon form between spells mid fight. It’s important to keep people who enjoy the class also enjoy the visuals, regardless of what form they are in.
In conclusion, while staying in dragon form can be useful, casting spells in human form can have its advantages. It’s perfectly reasonable for players to request visual improvements for their preferred class, as aesthetics are an important aspect of the gaming experience. Let’s keep an open mind and embrace the variety of play styles that make our community so diverse.
Dracthyrs, to my mind, need more tmog options for their dragon form. The ones they have now are stunning, but the variety is very dull.
About being able to play in human form: nah, you wanna play a blood elf with horns, you create a blood elf and tmog a Viking helmet.
Then lets support the option that makes sense and supports the intended Fantasy. Which is ask for more Transmog to be designed for Dracthyr model.
Whilst I appreciate Transmog and appearances has become a big part of the game in recent years. It’s something I enjoy myself (won 7 trial of styles last week). There should still remain some limitations for the sake of what makes sense for the game and the class Fantasy that was intended when Blizzard created the Class.
In this case, limiting your character to Dracthyr form makes perfect sense. After all we’re in the game to play a fantasy. Blizzard decides the rules of that fantasy, not us.
Even here in the Freeworld we have rules that we have to abide by, otherwise it would be chaos (not rules to how we appear though, but hopefully you get my point). WoW is an artificial world with rules to help portray a story.
let’s get one thing straight: having a good transmog and the ability to choose your form are two separate issues, and it’s important not to conflate them. Furthermore, imposing strict rules on a “fantasy” game seems counterintuitive, doesn’t it?
If you’re looking for more transmog options for the dracthyr dragon form, I suggest starting another forum dedicated specifically to that topic. The matter at hand, however, is simply about having the freedom to choose which form to play as in our class. It’s worth noting that, judging by your character’s profile picture, you dont even main dracthyr evoker yourselfm which means even if you have an evoker most of your time is dedicated to another character. For dracthyr mains like us, we do want 2 forms. So let’s focus on the topic at hand and not get sidetracked by other unrelated issues.
Just give dracthyrs ability to transmog everything except capes and back items I hate that I’m forced to play as a butt naked lizard if people like to play that way that’s nice but give an option to use transmog ffs
Not really. they’re just enforcing their Fantasy that we’re paying to enjoy. Likewise if you’re not enjoying the product they are creating for us, there are many other options out there to try.
This is a discussion forum. I am here discussing the topic and suggesting a fair solution to the issue.
