Extreme toxic players in dungeons?

[Guufi-twisting-nether (Guufi)]

Seems like Blizzard just wants their playerbase to skip bosses while leveling since you get the most XP from killing the last boss in the dungeon. Honestly it’s disappointing considering that it means a lot of player’s first experience in a dungeon may lead to them skipping half of it. Too bad you didn’t play the xpac at launch right?

@Grendiser-kazzak

Also, if a new tank gets upset about a very simple party issue like the majority of the group wanting to skip a boss and decides to give up tanking for that reason, then tanking is not for them because they won’t be able to handle further abuse later on.

Just wanted to comment on bold, I think it’s incredibly sad that tanks are just expected to tolerate abuse lmao. What a pathetic state of affairs the pug world is in…

[Grendiser-kazzak (Grendiser)]

@Timaani-earthen-ring

Assuming that by “exercise” you meant “practicing the mechanics”;

People who do the bosses on M+, don’t need the practice. And this is why I said “most players like to skip”, instead of “all players like to skip”.

@Guufi-twisting-nether

Just wanted to comment on bold, I think it’s incredibly sad that tanks are just expected to tolerate abuse lmao. What a pathetic state of affairs the pug world is in…

Tanks have the biggest responsibility in M+. So they got most of the blame when things go wrong.

[Timaani-earthen-ring]

@Grendiser-kazzak

People who do the bosses on M+, don’t need the practice.

If that were the case, these very forums would look different. A lot different.

[Grendiser-kazzak (Grendiser)]

@Timaani-earthen-ring

If that were the case, these very forums would look different. A lot different.

What do you mean?
Do you mean that people who complain on the forums that a +15 Tyrannical boss is too hard just need to practice the mechanics on normal mode?

[Timaani-earthen-ring]

@Grendiser-kazzak

What do you mean?
Do you mean that people who complain on the forums that a +15 Tyrannical boss is too hard just need to practice the mechanics on normal mode?

No, I don’t mean that.

[Awjeez-lightnings-blade]

Those are the same people who make mythic+ such a horrible place.

Run with friends or guild. or befriend a random nice tank.

[Sausageroo-twisting-nether]

And abuse is absolutely OK? Because it really is not. At all.

[Sausageroo-twisting-nether]

They are not comparable things. If you really enjoyed the travel (like you really should with a game) then you might want to go via Moscow. If the dungeon is such a chore, why are you playing WoW?

[Grendiser-kazzak (Grendiser)]

@Sausageroo-twisting-nether

And abuse is absolutely OK? Because it really is not. At all.

I didn’t say it was OK. But it is an unavoidable reality.

@Sausageroo-twisting-nether

They are not comparable things. If you really enjoyed the travel (like you really should with a game) then you might want to go via Moscow. If the dungeon is such a chore, why are you playing WoW?

• What I should or should not enjoy in game is MY OPINION ALONE and no one else’s. I also won’t tell you what you should and should not enjoy.
• If I enjoy travelling via Moscow, it is fine to go via Moscow if I am travelling alone, or travelling with people who also enjoy the same. When travelling with other people, I should respect their wishes.
• A normal dungeon may be fun, but some people find M+, Mythic raiding, Arenas, etc MORE fun. Players can’t do these before reaching level 60. So they want to rush the normal dungeon so they get to level 60 fast and enjoy later content. I hope this answers your question about “why are you playing WoW?”.

Let’s say you and I are in a normal dungeon. I prefer to skip. I have my reasons. You prefer to kill. You have your reasons. There are 3 other people in the group, let’s ask them what they want, go with majority opinion, and move on with our lives. Simple, right?

I find it silly that I have to explain my reasons. I enjoy playing the game the way I like. You enjoy playing it the way you like. When we cross paths in game and are in a group of 5, it is very simple to do a vote.

[Sausageroo-twisting-nether]

When you’re in a social environment, it’s not all about you. All I see is that you playing the game your way means enforcing your will on others. Just chill and enjoy the ride, let people enjoy the content. Be a good citizen and not selfish, playing this hand is not all about your objectives for everyone else.

[Grendiser-kazzak (Grendiser)]

@Sausageroo-twisting-nether

When you’re in a social environment, it’s not all about you. All I see is that you playing the game your way means enforcing your will on others. Just chill and enjoy the ride, let people enjoy the content. Be a good citizen and not selfish, playing this hand is not all about your objectives for everyone else.

This is what I was saying.