Faerin Lothar, WTF is this writing?

She isn’t. The Lothar line is thousands of years old. It is totally possible there was some generations inbetween.

No that is not what happened. She is just there to give him his faith in the light back.

I hope you are aware how genetics work?

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Yeah, cause those other two guys who are proficient in that light stuff and have been around for how many millennia? Talking about Velen and what’s his name, Alleria’s hubby. Yeah, those guys were on a break or something.

And you know what, I wouldn’t mind at all if she was there to help Anduin find his mojo. But the way she does it annoys the hell out of me, because she acts like she’s one of those guys I mentioned above, not some pixie barely out of her teenage years. If they wrote it so she’s there to support Anduin as someone struggling herself and they find the light together, that would have been a lot better than her acting like some light guru. But that’s beyond the skill of the ones who wrote her in. They just needed a DEI character. Not much else.

Same with the maiming. Why introduce her maimed? Why not, instead during one of the battles you get into next to her she gets maimed. Because as she is right now, she does nothing for me. I’ll use an example. There’s a Russel Crowe movie, Master and Commander. There’s a kid there, don’t remember his age, just a kid one step away from puberty, he loses his arm. Sad thing to see. Then you see this kid leading men into battle with one arm. Totally badass. Now that is how you do it. Not this.

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Fair enough, I checked the wiki and that is true, though my point still stands. The Arathi name was hardly ever used and then suddenly it got blackwashed. Yet another one.

…In case it is not obvious, I do not mean “Babysitting” in the literal sense. I do not mean that Anduin is in a cradle with Faerin next to him. I am talking about the fact that, for all the power and relationships Anduin as, instead of going to some emblematic figure of the light like Velen, he decided to see this random woman who just got introduced and empty his heart to her. It does not make ANY sense that “She is just there to give him his faith in the light back” when there are figures much better suited for this.

I do. I was refering to Blizzard’s raceswapping. This isn’t the first time they have done that and I’m not going to believe that the name Lothar being used for a black woman after being used to refer to a white man, in an era of tokenism, is a coincidence.

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She might be a distant cousin from some paternal grand uncle.

I suspect that anyone who takes issue with the existence of a black character is probably also going to take issue with the idea of white and black people having kids with each other, so I’m not sure this will satsify anyone.

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I’m not the biggest fan of the writing concerning Faerin’s storyline and such, though I enjoyed it for the most part, except for some moments (like the refusal of the prosthetic) which seemed strange to me. For me, it would have made a lot of sense if somehow during combat, she would develop a light prosthetic for her hand, which would be temporary. Then, refusing the actual prosthetic would have made perfect sense (to me). But I’m getting sidetracked

About the Anduin part, and the light. It makes perfect sense that Anduin didn’t consult with Velen, Turalyon, or whatever other beacon of the light. He was running from the light after SL, he didn’t want to confront the possibility that he lost its grace or something. He kept isolated from everything, so I think it would be pretty bad writing to say ‘mmmh, now that I’ve finished my isolation, why don’t I go to see Velen and ask him what’s up with this light problem I have?’.

In the case of Faerin, it’s not like Anduin seeks her wisdom. They just happen to meet randomly in Hallowfall, and go through some adventures together, which brings about these conversations about the light. She is not an authority in the light or whatever, just some person who wields it, and who naturally crosses paths with Anduin. Somehow, he can relate to her experience, and it helps him.

So in that regard at least, saying that Anduin should have sought help from Velen and such, makes little sense considering his behaviour; which was reclusion, and refusal to seek help, torturing himself about the actions he committed in SL.

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Should Anduin have been a normal man in a world similar to ours, I would have agreed with you. It would make sense for a normal man in a depressed state to escape rather than confront, so he ends up talking with someone who has nothing to do with him in the first place.

Except we’re talking about the king of the whole human race, leader of the Alliance, probably THE most powerful faction on Azeroth, and that the setting is a World where people fighting and killing each other happens all the time and what we, the players and readers, would consider to be atrocities, is being done on a regular basis, because it’s a Wartorn world.

It does not make sense for him to go all boohoo and for everyone around him to try to cheer him up. It could have made sense in our world, void of bloodshed and conflict on the level of Azeroth. But that is not the case. He’s supposed to lead, not to roll in a ball and cry about his own pitiful state.

This to me really shows how incompetent the writers are, they don’t seem to be able to separate themselves to the characters they write, they have to write them with the reasoning of an average Man in the 21st century, instead of Azerothians fighting lifethreatening menaces.

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People have feelings shocker. Not everyone can be stoic all the time. Be glad they bring in realism.

Either read what I am saying and THEN answer, or don’t reply to me, thank you.

You complain someone actually has a trauma about all the trauma and death all the time. I am rather shocked not more characters feel that way so far. That is not crying but basic empathy.

I have wished they would have showed the consequences of constant war and suffering. Everyone just brushes it off and there is no trauma’s usually. Which is why i admire this Anduin storyline em finally adressing somethings atleast. Another one that did it well was saurfang’s story

The problem is, her having a prosthetic arm would not throw off her balance as the stupid bolt on shield is being used in the same manner as it would if she had an arm there. She even has a line asking if the blacksmith could make something so the shield would put less pressure on her shoulder joint, yes love, it’s called a prosthetic arm, so the shield would be on the limb allowing the shield to do it’s actual job of redirecting a blow. instead of the stupid shoulder shield that literally does nothing useful.

It sounds like from your personal story you were going through rehab to walk unaided, which is very different to what’s happening in the game. She is never going to regain the use of a limb no matter how much she tries, there’s no rehab here she’s missing the limb.

Honestly with how the nuw writers have written every single damn character for the past 10 years, I would settle for a single stoic character, sadly there are none.

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I get the impulse, but if you aren’t into particularly bleak and hopless stuff I kinda feel that this might be “you think you want that, but you don’t.”-thing. The war is constant, and since the plot will always go on, the war will also do so. Trying to realistically depict that not only will there be a new world war every few years, but that at any time godlike powers could just decide to icrush your world and nvade your lands or, while they are at it your minds… there really is no fun to be had. None at all. I guess it would be doable to have a character study or two for villains who broke from the stresses and joined some of those evil cults we murder anyways, and I guess you can point out one or two cases like Anduin and Saurfang… But you can’t do it for everybody. And as you can read here, what we have is already too much depression and not enough boom for many - frankly, including me. And going ever deeper into the psychological horrors here would get everyone to their breking point sooner rather than later. No one wants to turn the game on to get more depressed. Or if they do, they really shouldn’t.

I don’t mean bleak and hopeless, i really dont want this to become warhammer 40k. But Tragedy itself creates good stories and build ups to those boom moments. There will be lot more power behind in those moments after it

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Not if they don’t end, and WoW doesn’t.

Again, that’s true once or twice, but in repetition it loses all force. You might not be at that point yet, but I am, and if we do one or two more arcs about our tragic heroes bemoaning their fate, I am sure you’ll get there. It’s not a long-term strategy. And thus it can’t be about realism, since the sources of tragedy won’t go away, when the will to listen to stories about it does. WoW needs a more consistent tone, and tragedy can’t be it.

For Undead abominations the Forsaken are sounding rational these days.

To address this we are in the World of WokeCraft now.
Gone is the fantasy and escapism and now enter current day Wokeism.
No explanaition for Black Brown and Asian Humans. Fantasy races being “diversified” and humanized. High / Blood Elves Gnomes and Dwarves even the MechaGnomes got a Diversity “upgrade”. The Google Gemini AI programming had to go somewhere. After it’s amazing performance of Black and Asian 1943 German Soldiers and all.

Activism above everything. Blizzard Entertainment does not see Concord as a cautionary tale but something to surpass. Concord was probably not Diverse Enough.
With DragonAge Veilguard stunning and bravely leading the charge with its Chest scars to be “inclusive” of post operation Trans people.
It will not surprise me if Prince Erazmin became a Princess.

Think about it. Dragon Age is a setting with transformation magics but they need surgery scars. The Woke call it “gender affirming”.
There will be no entertainment with your gaming. Just activism. Just being preached at with THE MESSAGE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj9slYsrumc
The REAL problem is that too many people are noticing. You’re not supposed to notice.

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The problem is in lot deeper than this, it is designed to make people go angry about it and think of it as “cultural change”, or just plain activism. The answer is right there when you look at whole world situation and it bleeds into in our hobbies where were escape problems. Divide and conquer