I said them before but I’m gonna make a full list of the things.
Void elves: High elf options and a proper Void form, The current one looks incomplete and bad+ a Cosmetic spell with no additional buff or anything that lets you use the void form whenever you want. (And yes I know allied races won’t get anything, but still)
Night elves: I mostly want Queen Azshara’s hairstyle (or similar to hers), jewelry like hers, her tiny waist and her skin color!
What we’ve got to understand is that Brann is absolutely right. Their really isn’t any difference between Highborne and Lowborne Night Elves
I think specific features would be a better route to go down, in order to distinguish them, such as purple, vibrant runes and purple eye colour.
Also, not all Highborne share the same features. Blizzard made them look the way they do to make them stand out, but if we look at the Highborne Ghosts in Zin-Azshari. I see Highborne NPC’s with light green hair and markings.
Also, Shen’dralar Highborne Zealots appear to have a blue-ish, quite filthy skin tone. Again, it’s different to what we’re commonly used to.
Blood Elf men don’t use them, barring Lor’themar.
Blood Elf boys should be able to have earrings, just like Lor’themar and the Nightborne men.
True, not all of them look like that. But I did bother to check on all the Surviving Highborne listed in the wowpedia page - mostly used as mage trainers and reforger NPCs in game, and the count was as following:
White hair: 17 of the 21
Pink and light purple skin: 9+7 (so 16 of the 21)
Versus green (2) and water blue (1) hair and pink skins with blue hue (2), full blue (1) or darker (2).
I would certainly be happy if Blizzard decided enforced a specific unique look for the Highborne… but even if not, a few more lighter and darker shades within the same palette will hardly hurt anybody (and are already being added for most races anyway).
They would not even need to call them ‘Highborne’ options… we would do so, in case, when they are compatible to what we see from the NPCs. 
I feel that most of us could agree that many races would benefit from the addition of a choice between a bulkier and slimmer build, as we often have very silly male casters in huge muscular bodies and elegant female warriors which seem a bit too frail for the job. 
That’s a very good point. I suspect that because there is no specific highborne customisation, it uses the available Night elf ones, in the closest approiamtion to what would pass as Highborne.
It would be a different case if the model was specifically given options that reflect the Highborne - from hair colour and styles, to beards, faces, ornaments, pose/stance, even build.
The same for Farstrisder. although Farstriders don’t need a different pose, however the current Farstriders won’t have the unique specific features you would expect of a forest ranger or elite agent - like Alleria and Lor’themar are given. They’d just use the standard blood elf options - which they do.
When specific ones are designed, then it would be nice that the Farstrider NPCs are also changed to reflect this.
And the same for Magisters of the Sin’dorei, since they are one of the biggest core’s to Sin’dorei life.
Hell, they and Humans are probably the biggest lore-based Mages around, so they need to show some love for these two, 100%.
100% agreed, but so far not many people have suggested things they could do for them.
I can only take it to mean it’s not that high on their list, because the blood elf appearance is based on that. Still, it would be nice to have some more options.
Can you think of anything that would be useful?
Purple eyes for them, to represent their Arcane Mastery.
Arcane Runes/Kirin Tor Runes for them - vibrant purples.
Blood Elf Mages can have red tattoos like Rommath
Human Mages should have the option for blue tattoos.
The return of class quests should involve the Humans going to the Mage District to meet Jaina and the Blood Elves going to Sunfury Spire, to meet with Rommath.
I have, but you haven’t wanted to talk about them - especially Blood Elf Mages.
Only Blood Elf Hunters (which are only one part of blood elf society) and Night Elf Mages (which are an even smaller part of night elf society - probably same level as Sin’dorei Warlocks.)
Oh, that’s just because they’ve not been the subject of this thread, since they are what the Belf toons are based on, but the topic has opened up to all customisation [you read the Blue 
and I am glad it has], so feel free to bring up the ones you want to see, even non-elven ones, Blizzard has opened up the thread for us to share what we hope for.
Elves are the largest played race on both factions, by some margin on horde too, whiles on alliance, Night elf and void elf populations combine a larger than human. With so many peole playing them, and many people into them, it is understandable that un-rperesented facets of them are greatly desired, but it’s not limited to those as yet to be reflected parts.
Existing ones also need a facelift too, so by all means. Don’t let me or anyone else tops you.
They have a much larger role and significance to the race and its playerbase regardless of what their level of involvement or numbers are in the Darnassus faction.
As DKs and DHs prove, you don’t even have to be “lore” member of the faction to be playable, popular, desired by fans or significant. And we all know Night elven Highborne and mages have played a very significant part in the race’s lore and makeup, unlike BElf warlocks, the comparison is a bit unfair.
But don’t let it stop you suggesting what you want. That’s what this is about 
Maybe, but Humans, Nightborne and Blood Elves just have a higher representation of their Magisters, which makes sense since Humans and Blood Elves have had the longest core of being central to WoW’s Mage/Arcana lore development.
That’s great, so I can talk about how awesome Blood Elf Mages can be and how elegant they can weave spells with their Sunwell and their eye colours being the basis of wielding, arcane, frost and fire.
Alleria Windrunner tells us of her people’s mastery of the arcane and we can see how true that is.
Magic created Silvermoon, the Sunwell, the Eternal Spring, the Runestones and Ban’dinoriel and how their arcane mastery kept the Amani at bay, initially.
Small quests, here and there, but nothing outstanding and nothing we haven’t seen before with Humans and Blood Elves.
Hell, the council of the black harvest has a Sin’dorei Champion, who is extremely powerful.
Ofc, and proud to be, however we mustn’t forget the lore. The Night elves are the origin of that class, and the ones who’ve gone the furthest with it. The having humans/blood elves as the class theme for the mage is great, but you know being the majority doesn’t exclude other fantasies from being very well loved by fans, nor of any races like draenei being introduced and pre-set to have a talent to rival the elves.
Just because they’re not at the forefront atm or large doesn’t mean they’re not relevant, or aren’t necessary, nor that they aren’t desired. And sometimes it is precisely because there isn’t much seen about them, is why they need to be highlighted won’t you say.
Classic example are the Farstriders and Highborne. Farstriders are a major institution amongst the blood elves and very important. The most famous blood elves are from it, yet they don’t have specific character options that cater to them.
The Highborne and the arcane half of the Night elf, has books (4 perhaps even 5) with lots of lore in it, plays a huge part in the make up and definition of the Night elf, yet it’s most famous cast doesn’t have options that reflect it.
You know the lore doesn’t give the human and mage exclusive rights to the mage class, afterall, it gave the Night elves authorship and premiership amongst the lesser races, it gave dragons and titans great mastery, and made the Draenei just as magical. Blizzard share the love, if not always the focus 
. Even druidism didn’t remain the exclusive purview of the Night Elf and aren’t we glad for it
Now whiles it’s good to have more of the others, which I have already stated, , let’s for now give the underdog the greater support.
Yes you can, and to your hearts content. Not that I or anyone else would be able to stop you Ma’am, nor would I want to.
I was talking about the history of the race and it’s entire story, impact, and focus in the lore. But now you’ve pointed out how tiny the quest share is, blizzard should look to improving that significantly, I’m sure the fans of these would love it. Good catch Leia
I haven’t seen that yet, so I don’t know, is a big, curly hairstyle like Wrathion’s in plans for human males or females? I have a female human char who’s supposed to look like that.
Please forward following feedback to developers :
Here are propositions for hairstyles:
https://i.imgur.com/yYc4S0K.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XrxFGuy.jpg
Troll guys should have set of beards to pick from, especially goaties.
Troll females should have more facial paint options, I always wanted simple stripe over the eyes - with black paint. And ofc jewelry. Not just bone one, but for example ear-rings shaped like snakes.
Regarding model The troll fans would like for texture on troll male to be revisited. Both Troll male and nelf male were likely done last and it really shows. When you campare troll male to troll female or Zandalari the quality in texture is huge.
It would be also great if their arms would be by tiny bit buffed as from the side they look reasonably muscular but from behind they look very thin for some reason.
https://i.imgur.com/cQKav0v.jpg < for example
And those are imo ideal changes:
https://i.imgur.com/68gTtZJ.jpg (borrowed from mmo-c thread)
Edit:
And I feel this hairstyle would fit more a troll female :
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/928340.jpg
I want to highlight this. I also noticed this in 6.0, the troll and NElf male just didn’t seem to match the same quality as many of the other make overs. And the troll unlike the NElf male didn’t get a DH makeover. [Which reminds me that the Nelf male should probably be brought up to the DH Nelf level of quality at the least, if not higher, and a similar process done to the troll male as was the Zandalari male at the least, if not higher.
Yes but regular nelf still don’t have HD textures, and so does regular troll guy. But at least regular troll guy have decent looking face, the body can be covered with gear, but now that you can show of our torso and limbs it really needs to be revisited imo.
For both nelf and troll dudes.
I’d love it if you added long beards (down to your chest or further) to more races.
Night Elves concept art has a NE druid with a beard down to his waist most of the time but ingame we only have neckbeards.
Humans should get access to Vrykul hair styles and tattoos, let them embrace their roots
Undead could get metal plating and some stitching optimization. In the Storm Rising novel we read that they had to do a lot of upkeep and sometimes even replacing body parts.
Worgen need an upright posture. Genn Graymane has one in CGI cinematics and it looks amazing and elegant, whereas ingame people are often discouraged to make worgens cause they look like they’re about to fall over
More scars We’ve been fighting constant threats for close to 16 years, we should look like we’ve been through some rough times
But it does give them a prominence for the class.
Of the Alliance races, Humans are probably the most well versed with Arcane sorcery and their lore is telling.
Where the Night Elves failed, the Humans and High Elves prospered. Where Zin-Azshari and Eldre’Thalas fell, Dalaran, Silvermoon and Stormwind prospered.
Yeah, 3 out of those 5 were them causing the War, getting killed and later, causing the Sundering.
That’s the legacy of Night Elven Mages.
The legacy of Thalassian Mages is one taking precautions and succeeding where their predecessors failed.
Lor’themar and Hauldoran, yes.
But we’ve got Aethas, Rommath, Kael’thas and Astalor from the Magisters.
Liadrin for the Blood Knights - whom actually commands a lot of focus and has done over the past few expansions.
The Windrunner Sisters were High Elves and not part of Sin’dorei society. Their views don’t reflect that of the Sin’dorei.
But we’ve got understand, that other races are involved with this and due to having a “Night Elf/Highborne Mage” look-into, for the past two expansions and with the lore expanding for Tyrande, I can honestly see us having a break from Mage lore as a whole - maybe Thalyssra or Jaina might pop in - and, for the Night Elves, bringing the Sisterhood of Elune and Death, closer together.
What I mean, is if you play a Night Elf Priest or Night Elf Death Knight (the latter of which, I do play), then Shadowlands will be an interesting expansion for you.
Which then involves another talking point for customization - more Death Knight customization for the core races.
Night elves could have ears pointing upwards
(you can use Nightborne ones or even resized Blood elve ones)
Example from a old in-game highborne statue https://i.ibb.co/X2002n4/statues.jpg
With the exception of Druid, Shaman , DH & Hunter - most classes in wow are based on the human, including the mage.
However, this doesn’t mean that other races in other classes, like Draenei Priests/paladin, Night elf/Blood elf mages etc don’t have these classes as major parts of their lore.
Nor does it mean that humans are the best at them or exclusive rights any more than it mean NElves should have bragging rights and the best at druid/dh/hunter or Orcs at Shaman.
The lore has detailed the origin of many of the classes, given races distinct flavours of many of them to fit their fantasy and woven their story. The class model being based on it should not be viewed as making another race irrelevant or redundant, less significant, not worthy of being at the forefront.
Nor does showing prominence of any class on any race in the past should somehow exclude or prevent it from being shown in other races where it is relevant.
It’s good warcraft races have several things to them. That’s good design, especially if you’re a major race, it gets boring after a while if you’re only about one thing. You can’t expect humans and blood elves to be the only ones having development, characterisation or customisation in various classes. Sorry, but no.
Okay, I’ll elaborate; apologies all for the wall of text.
I think you’re missing the point. It’s a large part of the Night elf history. And wholly part of their lore. Being in the past doesn’t somehow subtract it from the race.
Past , present, future are all part of the journey of a people, you don’t ignore something becuase it’s in the past, especially such a major one.
Pre-sundering period is actually the night elves as they really are. The Long Vigil is more a mission era - where they lived to counter a threat and protect the world. It wasn’t life as normal. Constant patrols for demons, hiding magic from the world to prevent the Legion’s return. They weren’t doing life as normal, making families, trading and fulfilling their oringal purpose, their actual full self is in the period before then. You can’t count it as irrelevant.
If you wantto examine what their life and culture is truly like, what they were defined by, it is in that era. And in that ear you have arcane development, nature love with Cenarius, and Elune.
Once the Long vigil ends, night elves if i recall, come out of isolation, urban life begins again, magic practice no longer needing to be banned returns, reconciliation with their highborne group occurs, and we see them working alongside with the other group, the Night elf Illidari group they thought were Legion agents and chief warden Maiev had dedicated her last 10k years to eradicating.
Past, present, future.
Anyway, the point is a substantial part of their lore and identity is set and defined there. The Arcane Well of Eternity and it’s magic, Elune and her priestesses, Nature and druidism, Demon Hunting and Ilidan - these are huge parts of the Night elves - regardless of how big or small their numbers are now.
the effort and time that talks about them, the role they play in the dynamics of the race and all its groups (incl Nightborne and the ones in Legion), has been a huge part of the development of the race both in and out of game. If you look at resources spent and where Night elf development has gone you see the aracne and nature having the highest prominence with Elune and Illidan and his demon hunters having great significance.
The story hsn’t ended either, and I am sure there is more. Just like thereis more for a lot of groups.
But remember the blood elves are the High elves, it’s just a different development of the race. Undead as she is, leader of the Forsaken, then the Horde, and now the Jailor’s co-conspirator - Sylvanas still an elf of the blood elf race she is. Alleria too, Vereesa - depsite them being with different factions.
I think it is a mistake to dismiss a group like the Farstriders or the Highborne because they haven’t been shown as much in the initial portrayal of the race, it could be that much more is coming from them down the line for in game, because the lore certainly has them dominant. A lot of the comics on their race has the Rangers and Farstriders quite prominent, the Windrunners, Lor’themar, Halduron are favourites of mine.
If you had this conversation 10 years ago, people would say blood elves are rubbish at the Light, they’d say this because TBC intro focused a lot on the arcane side, but if you had played WC2 and WC3, the races mages were as renowned as their priests, and they were famous as rangers/hunters.
These aspects are all their amongst the blood elves. So later on when the focus switches to the Light, it’s no surprise. Blizzard are just bringing a part of the elves that was always there, and significant to better light, showing they are more than about one thing.
This is good, and it shoudln’t be used to knock out., or suppress. Their coming to the forefront doesn’t eliminate the arcane legacy and mastery of the blood elf. Focus in-game shifts, however if it’s in your lore it’s there. This is why I don’t understand people who regard the pre-sundering era of the Night elves as not part of Night elf lore - it’s there in the very beginning as you open the pages of WC3’s manual. It may have taken 20 years to show it in game, but it was written about alot.
Yes, that’s an important point. There are other aspects of the lore to rise to prominence or get a spotlight for both these races, and if you’re a fan of them then you can go blow their horn. Blizzard gets to various sections. Did they not get to the Light part of the Blood elves? They didn’t need fans to whine about it either. Yet, the arcane and Highborne for the night elves and the rangers and Farstrider forest elf side of the Blood elves are fan favourites too, that people understandably want to see more of.
You don’t have to remind fans constantly of the Blood elves arcane side, or the night elves druidic side, they know, they want to see other sides too, they want to have other customisation options.
Are you trying to tell them what they should want? If so, that’s not cool. However, thank you for your contributions. If anything it is shining a light on why we enjoy diverse things.
As for NElf DKs, they don’t have particular lore yet, they could use the Ravencrest undeads in Black Rook Hold to make them more meaningful. Would you on your Nelf DK feel more engaged in the lore if there was a famous undead Night Elf group prominent in the race’s story?
Not really.
We’ve got one - Siousxxie the Banshee, but I don’t think we need more as the whole thing with “death” has always been heavily tied to Humans, Orcs, Forsaken and Blood Elves.
The main reason why I chose to play a Night Elf Death Knight was I wanted to be something that was highly controversial by their standards.
But it’s a case of we’ve been exposed to these frequently and I’d like some symbolism on what made these races, truly memorable.
For me, that’s the Druids of the Night Elves and the Mages of the Blood Elves.
Back then, though - it was all very “LOTR-style” where Elves were Archers and Humans were Footmen.
We absolutely need to get away from that. For the sake of the Blood Elven identity, if nothing else.
But they also showcase a lot of strong arcane, magical use.
The Blood of the Highborne showcases the new depths of Light, Arcane and Fel Magics, that they took to.
The first former was difficult, however the latter two were quite easy for them.
The speed the Elves took to wielding Fel magic was interesting, but also shows us the sheer skill and highlights exactly what Alleria Windrunner said when she states “my people’s mastery of the arcane.”
It’s Elf lore as a whole.
Chronicles expanded with the story surrounding the Nightborne and Elisande.
We were introduced to the first of the Sunstrider Dynasty and the Highborne of the Elite Circle.
The Highborne and the power they held - but also an introduction to the powers of their descendant races such as the Naga, High Elves and Nightborne.
But some people do like these sides and want to see more of them.
Night Elf Druids and Blood Elf Mages are the two main classes that got me to love both of these races and I’d like to see these get some love.
Obviously, Druids might get something in Shadowlands with Ardenweald, but I doubt the Sin’dorei Mages will - unless, we see a lot of Kael’thas, which could inspire some Rommath lore.
I’m not saying what people should and shouldn’t want - but we need to understand that Blizzard chooses who and what they want to pin-down on and what areas they cover.
The core theme of Shadowlands is “Death.” That’s the overall concept. Now, who else has involvement here, along with Sylvanas? Well - there’s Tyrande and Elune.
But we’ve also got to remember that Blizzard have learned from their mistakes with WoD, which was an eye-roll because it was “Oh god…Orcs again.”
Night Elf Mage themes can’t be a constant thing in every expansion now, because people will get fatigued, by it.
Blood Elf Mage themes took a backseat after WoTLK, if you remember rightly. The reason for this was TBC and WoTLK was littered with the Arcane magic of the Blood Elves. Unfortunately, such a theme hasn’t truly returned in a while, as the focus has shifted towards what Lor’themar and Liadrin, represent.
Now I love Blood Elf Hunters, but even I get sick and tired of seeing them, every expansion because they represented something Sylvanas, once was. (Even though she was a High Elf Ranger, not a Blood Elf Ranger.)
Same for Alleria and Vereesa - I along with other Sin’dorei fans, are getting tired of the Farstriders and Blood Knights getting so much attention.
Yes, you say “But look at how amazing Lor’themar and Hauldoran are.” Yes, don’t you think we Sin’dorei fans already know this, but why should we be silenced by night elf mage fanatics, when we also express an interest in Blood Elven Spellweavers getting lore attention.
We want our “Arcane” side to come back and we don’t like it, when we get told “You have Farstriders and Blood Knights” as I’m sure you don’t like it when you get told “We’ve just seen Druids, Priestesses, Sentinels and Wardens.”