Feedback: Epic Battlegrounds


I just can’t believe that it can take over 2 hours in queue for an epic bg to pop… What’s changed for it to be this bad? It wouldn’t be so bad if it was a guaranteed victory lol but when you have to do 3-4 queues to win then it takes a bloody long time.

Oh gosh I know I’m complaining but this is really annoying me.

Edit: Also when will my real level and achievements show? I’ve been 120 for a few weeks now!


changes? what changes…
all epic bg’s are filled with russians
since when are russians EU?? we complained about it more then several times and you blizzard don’t seem to care.
if you want to mix them in do it like you do with the portugees/French/dutch etc
the language barrier is a bollox excuse the other countries have to addept to the english language so leave that excuse out of the picture
or did you guys set it up so Russia are the owner of the epic bg’s?


Can you guys do something about the players who join Battlegrounds with 60 k hp,for the sake of God please!

(Huopoh) #102

There is a fundamental problem with the design of Wintergrasp: its snowballs with no counterplay.
Whoever wins the first groupfight at Sunken Temple gets over 10 demolishers to just steamroll the other team with. Sometimes they might have catapults, or even 1 or 2 demos, but they make no difference. You could try to farm NPC:s to get a few more: but it simply makes no difference.
And then, if the defending team is winning, there is simply 20 minutes of nothing for both teams.
Honestly I think WG should be taken off the list until you find some ways to fix it.


Epic bgs are just a pain in the a**. Getting farmed by an organized russian team for hours isn’t fun!!!



It sometimes feels like Putin bought epic bg’s for his people. =D



I rarely ever post anything on the forums but i feel i need to put this as simply as possible.

Epic BG’s need sorting out.

IOC is a 99% lose rate if you don’t get workshop at the start of the game.

WG is a 99% lose rate if you lose the first push due to the ranking system and whichever side is defending has the advantage due to being able to build catapults at the first push points (sunken ring or broken temple) 90% of the time its at sunken ring.

And Horde have a big advantage in AV due to the IB choke point compared to the 2 angles they can take SH GY.

I’ve played hundreds of epic bg’s and its the general feeling throughout the community that these are the most basic of problems. The AV problems isn’t too bad compared with the IOC and WG one though.

I would propose just removing the ranking system entirely in WG and have all ‘bases’ neutral at the beginning of every game and allow building once the bases have been capped. This would stop people afking out after the first push.

IOC Needs a nerf to the demolisher/siege engine damage vs players and a damage increase versus gates.

I think these basic changes would effect the dynamic of the 2 bg’s tenfold and would help stop the inevitable outcomes of the bg’s. Like I said, currently IOC is won with WS and not without it and WG is lost if your team fails on the first push.



You should just put all the bg’s back in the same basket like they used to be and give us the blacklisting option back


all these changes and u simply ignorant to players who address kindly about Russians premade.
many replays asking to fix Russian premade and you just choose to ignore them this is rudeness
WE NEED one simple blue post address this issue
if people say its problem then it is problem you do not know better than the people who queue for 40min daily at least 5 times and all end with premade that make your day worse.
for many years everyone said blizzard do not care about players opinions and now I’m back after many years of break and you still act the same.
FIX IT don’t kill the last enjoyable thing in the game.


I stopped playing Epic bg’s all together because of the Russian premade situation. Was looking forward to Ashran, but as things are now I’ll stay as far away from it as possible!


This is a failure, now everything is in a heap, Russians, Germans, British. No one understands anyone. I lost 3bg out of 4.


Its random!! Not premade!!! Cyrillic farts destroying Random Battlegrounds!!


Kick those Russians Premades, its just horrible and ain’t fun anymore. Got damn those bloody loosers can’t play without cheating!!!

(Alesta) #112


Firstly, the point of this post is to point out how this BG is big for being a 40v40, how its hard to get this achievement done and get enough interested players for it even if it could sound easy on paper, because dominating enemy team is not enough.

“Mine” achievement for “Master of Isle of Conquest” is very difficult to complete at the moment. Because it requires you to WIN the game WHILE CONTROLLING ALL 5 BASES, but even if my team is winning enemy team always assaults 1 base or more, be it that they are trying to win or solely to cause annoyance (so much that they will still assault bases even if they are close to 0 reinforcements, they could be literally bleeding reinforcements to 0 and still have 5-6 on 1 base, defend that and preventing me from capping it) to add insult to injury; ignorant random players I’ve came across battlegrounds who either don’t care or mock me on top it like: “We are not here to do your achievement”. etc.

I tried to find a team in several achievement communities for this, there weren’t enough interested players regardless of being a seemingly active for having 100+ online members most of time.

It is very frustrating since this achievement “Mine” is THE ONLY ONE I need to complete for the “Khan”.

Possible Suggestions

A) This achievement “Mine” could be excluded from meta for “Master of Isle of Conquest” (like how “Alterac Blitz” is excluded for “Master of Alterac Valley”)

B) It could be made slightly easier like:

“Control all 5 bases at the same time (or all 5 bases but not at the same time) in a single Isle of Conquest battle AND THEN win Isle of Conquest”. - So it wouldn’t be required to control bases while winning in this case.

C) Introduce AI Brawl for Isle of Conquest (Isle of Conquest: Comp Stomp) and make it possible to do achievements in Brawl (achievements will stay unchanged in this case) - I think this could be the most logical solution since there’s an AI Brawl for Arathi Basin and some achievements can already be done in Arathi AI Brawl (Arathi Basin: Comp Stomp).

Also it has been quite a while since I completed even the Veteran achievement (100 Victories) and I still spam queue Isle of Conquest and I’m hoping it will be “that game” for “Mine” achievement but it never works out, it just depressing me a lot as this is being the only achievement I’ve left to do, I humbly hope and request either of those suggestions I mentioned gets taken into implementation. Either of these changes would be appreciated a lot by me and many other players who are in my situation.



Problem with AV is that the towers and gys are separated north and south, making it feel like you need to penetrate the enemy’s line. So you are either offensive or defensive. which hinders fun if both factions are equally matched and both keep defending their towers. Perhaps AV needs to be more dynamic with some gys and towers been spread a bit more.

Also ban premade addon for randoms.


If anything can we get more stable epic BG servers, I was in Wintergrasp just now and we lost instantly cause the Horde side lagged out giving the alliance free kills cause they were experiencing no lag at all, this is a common occurance on both sides and nothing to do with my faction but a 20-40 seconds lag is not really ideal when you want to push 40v40 battlegrounds. Time and time again this always happens and it never gets any better.


I used to like Epic Battlegrounds when levelling but no one does them pre max level now. I don’t know what changed over the last few years. In anycase random BG’s are mostly ruined by Pre-mades anyway.


Here is also a crazy idea to make battlegrounds more fun, remove the potions that you can use, 30% more damage, better invisibility detection, 20% reduced damage taken and that bothersome potion for 50% HP healing, are they really necessary apart from actually just being an annoyance? You ever had someone at 1% then suddenly they pop all healing and potions to suddenly go from 1% health to 100% health cause why not right?


I didn’t notice much difference from how passively tanky people are in general tbh. Some classes self-sustain is just ridiculous. It’s no wonder every arena match goes into dampening.


It’s necessary to balance healers and tanks in EPIC BGs. It’s stupid to play 1-2-3 healers versus 7-9. You know when fail in BGs? When people make to leave is better option, than stay to lose. Why after you destroy 3 towers in Wintergrasp we should stay 30mins to end it? Why there is resources that don’t spent to lose or win faster? Also please say why still damage from machines can reach more than 50% in one hit? Yesterday got crit for 229k from demolisher.