Feedback: Epic Battlegrounds

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Hi Ic nice one, just come from Ioc, we had 8 healers Horde 4, pointed out at start.

What did Alliance do with that advantage12 went Docks, 8 went Hanger rest Ws. say no more, just unbelievable.

Same doodah last night, just as well wast fighting for conquest points, but dont make it any better.

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IoC feedback. Hangar concerns.

While a ship is hovering over horde/ally keep:

  1. Ally can keep an uptime on ~80% on front gate alone. Front gate on the horde keep can be melted in 4-6 turns depending on buffs.
  2. Horde can keep an uptime around 30-40% on a single gate at a time. So it takes at least 7-8 turns to destroy a single gate. 9-10 turns is more realistic even with buffs.

When a ship is going back to/docked at hangar:

  1. Ally can partially bomb the hangar flag heavily and therefore support any defense at the hangar flag.
  2. Horde can’t help defending the hangar flag at all. But horde can help attacking or defending quarry though. This requires serious precision bombing. Mapped keys for moving the “crosshair” is preferred here so you can actually see where you hit with the bombs.

[tl;dr]
Ally benefit great from the hangar while horde don’t.

Possible solution:
Please check the ships’ paths.

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Imagine having only 2 Epic BGs in 10+ Years of WOW…

What a joke :joy::rofl:

WOW made Millions of $ and the players that bought the game and still play the game can only play into 2 -OUTDATED- maps :roll_eyes::thinking::face_vomiting::triumph:

I feel so sorry for the PVP players.

But if after 10+ Years they didn’t do anything we can be sure that at this point they just don’t give a …:poop::poop:… about it.

gg

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This so much, it’s so unfair. They already have most bg advantages and this is a huge 1. This really needs to be fixed.

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Waiting out yet another deserter debuff so why not use it to give feedback about why I leave most AV games I get into since BfA launched.

Dunno why but there is this new ,meta, strategy in AV which is ,defend and wait for the opponents to run out of patience, which is no fun at all. So most AV games I get into both teams use this strategy so I can either go attack and get slaughtered because most of both teams defend or just go with the strategy and defend myself which means sitting at a bunker and not doing anything for a long time. This way a lot of games last up to 1 hour and most of that is sitting at a bunker or mine and not doing anything except clicking a few buttons every few min so I don’t get booted for being afk.
I would happily not play this bg ever but there is a solid 65 conquest reward for the first win of the day so I que and hope for IoC ( which is a great bg in my opinion ) but since there is only 2 epic battlegrounds there is a solid chance I get AV.
At this point I wonder why you removed Strand of the Ancients when that was in my opinion a lot better than this AV we got right now ( It was actually one of my favorite bgs :frowning: )

I don’t know how you can solve this…but please make that all in defense strategy bad so I can enjoy AV again. I’ve heard you plan to make Wintergrasp , Tol Barad and Ashran epic bgs and that would be awesome and if AV is still bad it would reduce the chances of getting it.

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Absolutely. IoC has become a quite complex BG with so many different options and strategies after the improvements, and yet so easy to play for most people. And you can still win despite your faction needs to melt 90% of the opponent’s gate, the opponent has rumbled your boss to 25% health, and everything seems hopeless. Even small 3-5 man teams can do a huge impact and be a game changer. The best bg atm imho.
I’m looking forward for Wintergrasp once it becomes an epic bg. :slight_smile:

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Greetings ladies ,

I’ve just dropped by to say a hello since im waiting for my 15 mins Deserter debuff to wear off.

Yea , you guessed it right.
AV vs ruskiland

What a great time in that ‘Epic’ battleground!
The things im doing for the daily conquest…

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Simple Alterac Valley is completely broken, and no attempt will be made to change it. Needs to be deleted which is quite sad, was the best BG ever when I first started to take part, Biased Horde playing development team in Irvine, just obeying the dictates of the guys parachuted in from Activision to run the game. Look in the eyes of Ion, never played the game, watching the bottom line. In the interviews by a member of his staff, watch his eyes zero enthusiasm for the game. Just the money.

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Please elaborate this, because frankly…i think you’re very wrong. Alliance has the most benefits in bg’s. Not horde. Your map to objectives is always shorter then ours. You have the benefit, when having hangar in IoC to bomb, both hangar, workshop and the horde gates. You had the best trinket for a long time as humans. So where is the so called "horde bias " ??

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Chokepoint Iceblood Tower and Graveyard and Galvangar, all close together, 30 second respawn to go back and re-attack Iceblood Tower. impassable to Alliance if that chokepoint is where the entire team sits and waits. Unwinnable. In addition watch any developer interview, “I play Horde, I also play only Horde”

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I have actually been on the gunship. bombing the Hangar, the leftmost gun, has the engine in the way, none of the other four guns can actually hit the flag at hangar, nor can any gun actually hit the area of the flag at the workshop, because the angle of attack, makes it impossible. It is sometimes possible to hit the players who are not actually at their pc, at the area of the workshop, but the guns, and if you understood anything about the way a gun in the real world can be trained on a target, you would know that. If you are interested in a real world example of what can be done about training a gun on a target think about the charge of the Australian Light Horse during WW1, when the bulk of the force got close to the Turks, the major guns of the turks could not be brought to bear on the attacking Australian Light Horse. They were in the end firing over the heads of The Australians this was the reason the Light Horse got away with so few casualties, I suggest you get on an alliance toon, and try to attack massed ranks of Horde players who camp the Iceblood chokepoint, or get on the same Alliance toon and get into IoC and see where your shot falls in and around the Horde controlled or even Alliance controlled Hangar Flag.

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Stop with the 40man russian premades and we have improvements.

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My Epic BG issues:

  1. The lag when two big groups clash in the same area.

  2. The CP reward is too low compared to normal BG. Normal BG is 40 cp for 15 min games. Epic BG is 65 cp for 20 min if you crush the enemy completly, but much more likely is 60 min. So that is 60% bigger reward for up to 300% more time spent.

  3. The AV towers are too small. I haven’t gotten around yet to test if it’s just a tauren problem. If you have Bloodlust or that hp increase buff you get in AV (or any other buff that increase your size i assume), you get too big to climb up the ramp in the horde towers. I even tried cat form to reduce my size, but you get stuck between the inside ramp and the floor of the first platform above you, and can’t get up without manually removing your buff.

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:rofl::rofl: Sorry, this isn’t to offend, but the mental image i got with this…

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Tauren, the only class that can’t get through Undercity doorways on mount since 2004. #sizematters

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Challenge you to play AV as an alliance player , as just saw you in yet another one sided BG due to the Iceblood Chokepoint your team exclusively defend then honor farmed, so if you do not say it is broken for Alliance come and see it from our side. Remeber Ion plays Horde as do most of the dev team. But I doubt you will do that Rhaeve am sure you are loving the easy wins right now

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You really need to let go of the so called “horde bias” thing. If you really think that, create a horde character and go see for yourself. I’ve lost many, many bgs while you do the same thing. Turteling and farm. So don’t blame the faction.

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We have already discussed this in game you know I have a 120 horde toon, have played a good few Av’s and its always the same camp IB chokepoint and farm. Still challenge you to put up, and play it on Alliance

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Yes we have and i keep telling you, it’s all in your imagination. As you can see i lost many av’s. Due to the same thing, you’re accusing the horde of. And no, thank you, i love being horde. Lok’tar ogar !!!

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Then you have a one sided picture.