[Feedback thread] Dark Ranger from a PVP player's perspective

Creating this as there is no official feedback thread on the EU forum

Black arrow

  1. Must be undispellable in PVP, or it will invalidate the whole talent tree
  2. Resetting aimed/barbed shot is not exciting or interesting in general, the effect is underwhelming

MM: Resetting the CD of Aimed shot will not be noticeable at all, since usually in PVP it’s hard to fire aimed shots off, and it’s never that the ability is on CD, but that you must find a good moment to do it

BM: Barbed shot is already reset by auto attacks quite often. Not as bad as for MM, but won’t be an exciting effect either

Ranger’s finesse

  1. This name coincides with an MM PVP talent.
  2. The effect is passive, but very strong for both MM and BM. Unless the other trees have something similar, this talent tree might be mandatory and not a real choice, because 15% more damage to your biggest abilities is huge.

Dark hounds

  1. MM: summoning random pets does not feel right as MM. Does this cancel Lone Wolf for the duration? Or these are categorized as “guardians” and don’t matter?
  2. BM: already summons a lot of pets, even more might make it clutter the screen as Demo lock does

Death shade

MM: this effect is strong enough
BM: kill shot is the worst ability as BM doing no damage, might not be worth the GCD to use kill shot

Dark empowerment vs Grave reaper

As a PVP player this is not a choice at all. But even for PVE you will need the extra energy for those Aimed shot resets

Embrace the shadows vs Smoke screen

Smoke screen is infinitely better, even if Embrace the shadows is buffed by 100% or 200%, it would still be much much inferior. Not even a choice, unless Embrace the shadows gets redesigned or buffed with magnitudes.

Dark chains This effect is very weak. PVE players who reviewed the tree say “this is for PVP” but no - as a PVP player I can say this is not for PVP - you will never feel this in PVP

Intense Darkness this will cause you to overcap resources (aimed/barbed shot charges) without being able to spend them, because you want to use other abilities as well during your burst cooldowns.

Shadow surge This should also work with Volley. I have never taken Multi-shot as an MM hunter in PVP ever since the new talent trees were introduced. I don’t even have a keybind for this ability any more. So for MM PVP this talent node effectively doesn’t “exist”.

Darkness calls vs Shadow assassin

10% more shadow damage would be around 1-1.5% increased damage. Very minor and very passive
The Shadow Assassin effect will be very very rare, there is one guaranteed kill shot (with only 15% chance to trigger this effect) and there will rarely be any other kill shots in the window.

Withering fire Strong effect, 10% damage is big. In 90% of the cases this will be the only benefit of the whole talent tree.

SUMMARY: aimed/barbed shot reset is not an interesting or exciting mechanic. Resources will overcap often, and the 10% damage increase will be the only benefit of the whole talent tree during most situations. All choice nodes are a non-choice and imbalanced with one option being significantly better

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