Feedback: Unpruning & Demon Hunter Class

Its been pointed to me that i was salty in my posts. I am apologizing if i insulted anyone, it was not my intent to be salty or to insult in the process. I was going for a sarcastic view where dhs isnt that far off of a fury warr, from which i wanted to, unsuccessfully obviously, promote different playstyle, one other than Demonic. What i was aiming at is perfectly described here:

"The entire point of bringing momentum bloodlet back is to have different builds back for dh. Not everyone enjoys only demonic, not everyone enjoys momentum bloodlet with FBDB, the point is to have the option to choose the builds you DO enjoy and maybe even optimize a bit for different fights or encounters. "

Its taken from a discussion on us forums about exactly the same thing, link:

Mind you, i do not propose that it actually be bloodlet, tho it would be cool to get slow + dot and that semi ranged feel again. What i do want to promote is viability of momentum as a second “path” for dhs to take. And by viability i dont mean dmg. The build as it stands now isnt fluid. It suffers from

  1. not been able to plan your jumps cause of rng fury gain
  2. rng on fel blade proc or in other words gap closer so you end up in africa
  3. loosing both felrushes for dmg etc etc etc etc
  4. its chaotic enough with planning your jumps while avoiding mechanic let alone waiting for a proc so you dont end up 20y away from a small hit box target and lose 3 sec of uptime just running back.

I was lucky to a point of acquiring ineffable truth with like tons of expedient corruption so right now, in low m+ keys (low because i dont wanna wreck someones key cause im testing stuff ) and on dummy it feels good. Procs are often and it feels fluid…will test in pug hc today for further fun and in mythic progress with guild starting wed. But if that works … can Blizzard please implement those two corruption benefit into VR or Fel Rush so that momentum looses that wait for fury or proc, rng feel, please? (Also im losing 5k sim dps switching to momentum build so in reality it will be much more but i really dont care :slight_smile: )

sorry again all, have fun, and hope changes start to get better for both builds

I feel like bringing Demonic as a baseline ability and adding Fury of the Illidari and Bloodlet back in would be a great addition to the class and their overall feeling.

Also on a pvp point of View I would say its good to nerf their Defensive capabilities, but the Damage potential of the class should stay the same. This way it would be a squishy heavy hitter class, which can be punished if you’re making mistakes defense wise. But good players can still outperform others with DH.

Finally Blade Dance should keep the 1 sec Dodge as it is the only defensive ability from DH which requires skill to fully utilize. And if the Kit for healers is significantly increased, especially for movement and cc’s, Demon Hunter really need a baseline slow.

Demonic as baseline would be great (IMO) and bring back Fury of the Illidari either as baseline aoe as well (since blade dance is getting gutted to 15s cd) or talent so we could have Fury + Eye beam for aoe and dance for cleave at least. Also would be nice to have the annihilation cleave talent.

Bloodletting should be base. How can a melee class not have a slow?

Most slows either cost resources or have a cooldown. Its the same for all classes.

Throw glaive can cost fury and not have a cooldown, or have a cooldown and not cost fury.

Crippling Poison, Monk Slow, Hamstring??

Yeah they cost a resource, 10 rage, big deal. They have 100% uptime.

Yes. Throw glaive can cost 10 fury too, and not have a cooldown. Perfectly acceptable.

Cool. Works for me.

how do you pull mobs when you have no fury?

Make Taunt give 10 Fury ez

The issue is not if there is a resource cost / cooldown - it is that the slow is tied to a talent (should be baseline) and competing against a stun on the same row.

The stun could be optional, but in reality is often mandatory because of the mana burn win condition that DH has where it is required to land those burns.

Without furious gaze you will not be able to use mana burn against the orc racial/hardiness pvp talent anymore…

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