I can’t shake this weird feeling that I am wasting my time when I play. Clearly I am not the top tier of WoW players and would consider myself average at best but this week has been a nightmare in PvE content. I have tried to group up for basic Mythic +0 runs and it’s been nothing but failure after failure. I tried to join a guild but mostly it’s people still people in a click with each other and difficult for new members to get into anything leaving me with the option to PUG only.
People refuse to interupt, people refuse to attack adds, people refuse to move out of basic mechanics and it’s frustating as it results in having to drop the group over and over. Even after you run back someone always without fail pulls something dragging the entire instance over rather than dying / vanishing etc they take the entire group with them.
On top of that when doing Torghast I can’t help but feel like my time is being wasted, I spend X amount of minutes in the content and keep questioning “what am I getting out of this?”
I can’t bring myself to actually do content anymore, even doing daily quests feel a slog and unrewarding. Dungeons are extremely stressful and at times you complete a mythic and don’t get a single item.
I can’t be the only one feeling this? It was never this prominant in Legion / BFA.
The fun I get out of wow comes from the people I play it with. Invest in finding some good communities or a proper guild imo.
I get that some people think guilds suck and interacting with people is evil but I’d never play this game solo and it feels richer with others. I’d encourage you to try that, if it doesn’t seem right then its not a crime to quit a game that isn’t working for you.
The problem is, dungeons have vastly changed over the years. From legion - round up as much and AoE smash. To BfA - round up as many mobs, pick out the odd mob that hurts and stun/cc then smash. To SL’s every mob has something deadly, 5 casters, 5 mobs that need dispelling.
You can see how blizz has completely changed dungeons, less trash but far more deadly stuff. M+ is literally built a round utility - CC/stun/dispell/soothes. And is more important then just zerg zerg. You can spot a good group a mile away now. +10 HoA with a good group of interupters, absolute breeze. Straight after a +10 mists with a bad group only me interupting, wiped 5 times fist pack then called it.
I play wow alone since legion and i can honestly say i enjoy much as solo rather than being sticked to any guild or group of people. Most of guilds want you to be their soldier. I do whatever i want and whenever i want. Achievements, old raids and dungeons, mount farming, alt gearing… I’m having some troubles at making m+ score as solo casual player but it is still worth it.
Unhelpful and pointless trolling, put more effort in next time.
Dungeons have changed I agree as Legion was an AoE fest but right now though something feels extremly off about the dungeons and the enjoyment factor just isn’t there for me.
I feel like I focused too much on dungeons rather than the entire content. I have a sneaking suspition that I am simply burned out on the entire concept of the game and the reliance on other players performing just isn’t worth it for me anymore.
I agree with the solo player mindset but it just feels like the content is a big time waste, it could simply be me and my mentallity but the idea of failing Mythic dungeon’s over and over due to other people’s inability to play just isn’t worth my time invested.
The enjoyment factor isn’t there when people make silly mistakes that you try help them correct over and over. The reliance on other peoples not to mess up is too stressful as of late.
This.
Check out the communities forums, there are many different types. They work over different servers (unlike guilds) and tend to be more social.
They range from simply avoid the toxicity of PUGS with ones like “Fail Train” or “Scared of Dungeons” (the one I joined in BFA to ones that are for PVP, M+ or Raiding.
They might not be in any races for world first but I’m sure you can find one that suits you.
I had thoughts like these 3-4 months before sl release then i found myself researching best mmorpgs other than wow. After a short investigate, i decided to play elder scrolls online, created a bosmer nightblade and dived into the game. It’s a game that built on story and quests mostly. Professions are getting way more time to max them out, you simply need 60 days for one of mount passives, no account wide achievements, no flying mounts, lasting for many hours of daily quests, no auction house but players are helpful and less toxic, skills have nice effects and dungeons are more interesting. I buy one month of gametime and play sometimes when i miss.
They no need any catch up mechanic because fashion is the endgame.
I mean you don’t have to be sticked to same game. It is still game if you enjoy. Doesn’t matter if it is windows based, ps4 or snes.
Please, if you notice a certain mob brings the whole group down to half HP within 1 cast, you interrupt it next time - right? You don’t need to do it 15 times and get asked to interrupt it 5 times to actually start using that dusty button.
We got 8 new dungeons to learn with a lot of different trash. Also, i am just healing. I am searching for right spots in melee so i can do that well. And i try to stun what i can.
And if i go into de other side from a +2 to a +8, i definitely see i didnt learn the important stuff in the +2.
Please.
Needing to be perfect in week 1 of M+. Wtf. Running the Bfa dungeons multiple hundreds of times are we were still learning.
Just use the generic mindset: don’t stand in front of big melee mobs - they prob cleave, avoid nasty circles on the floor, interrupt as many interruptable casts as you can, help dispelling diseases if your whole party has one and if the pack looks big and painfull - use cooldowns and help the tank by doing whatever you can. That would already help a lot.
This is obv not directed to you. But the amount of people doing none of the above is insane. It has nothing to do with new dungeons, some literally interrupt 0 times in total, never use a stun and barely get out of goo on the floor…
No one expects people to be perfect week 1, I sure don’t. I am an average player at best and make plenty of mistakes but I take the time to watch some quick videos on the dungeon tactics, read the journel quickly before the pull and try to make sure mistakes don’t happen.
There is no excuse for ruining a run because:
You don’t bother to learn from mistakes
You can’t be bothered to read the tactics
You can’t be bothered to interupt
You pull extra mobs constantly when running back to an area after death leading the entire instance with you to kill the group.
Ignore that an ability is going to hit you rather than moving out of it.
The above are simply a few observations I had while running PUG groups, I am a tank too so it’s like like many of us are in supply. I am going to either stick to PVP or just go to single player games, this entire situation just isn’t fun at all.
Besides that well, playing ANY video game is literally wasting time you could use for working or educating yourself or whatever
If you feel stuck in the M+ environment RIO is literally there to help you, try to read the dungeon journal or watch dungeon guides and just do your best. If you have RIO downloaded and you open up your own groups for M+0 and pick the highest people that are willing to sign up to your run you are bound to succeed more than you fail by sheer statistics alone.
If you don’t just want to do the nose to the grindstone approach of RIO, try finding a community, there are lots of discords and communities in WoW that are there for people looking for learner groups to find likeminded people in. It’s more casual than a guild but still a place where you can find level headed players who want to get better and not just get carried.
Nothing unfortunate about using it at all, you just have to get used to it.
RIO is just like school, or lifting weights, or running marathons, you can’t just jump in and get the good stuff right away. But you grind your way through the trench slowly, do every dungeon on a +0, then every dungeon on a +3, every on a +5 etc etc
once you’re past the +10 trench more often than not you’re going to have really friendly guys in almost every pug, it may be my experience only but most people are really pleasant at higher RIO, and if you find some friendly faces at the higher RIO scores, why not take an initiative to add them to play more? that could lead to you joining a guild at the least, and making some actual friends over time