Coming from a hunter to play a druid feels like my brain has a malfunction.
Feels like so much to think about.
Also feels very squishy.
compared to nighthold legion feral this is a joke 
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Historically since Wrath of the Lich king, feral druids have been one of the most complex specs to play. They are now a lot easier than they used to be.
Give it sometime and you will get better at it.
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Just need to put some hours into it! The older you are the more hours you need for the muscel memory start working XD
What is so hard exactly ?
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You been playing one for years and know it inside out .
Feral for a complete new person especially after playing hunter is a complex rotation .
Give some advice and tips . I havent played feral since WoD so i can not help .
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And that’s why I ask what is hard ?
I’m not mocking. I’m genuinely asking where the struggle comes from ? Is it energy management ? Do you often find yourself energy starved ?
Or… I don’t know. It can’t possibly be that combo points are hard or refreshing a dot is hard, right ?
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You need energy pooling for blood talons, maintaining bleeds on multi targets in AOE, snapshotting bleeds with blood talons and tiger’s fury, etc.
The main difficulty comes from the fact that a small mistake in executing the rotation usually results in a huge DPS loss.
For example a rip without blood talons is 30% weaker, and without TF is 15% weaker. So you need to sync your rip refresh with TF CD, and make sure you pool energy before that to get 3 different combo point abilities and trigger blood talons. Failing to do that results in waste of energy and combo points.
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The only spec that is actually complex in this modern wow is SV hunter, if we talk about pvp. It has a huge outplay potential. Other classes/specs are nowhere near. In pve, only the mechanics of a dungeon or raid can be difficult and nothing else.
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At the start of legion it would be super punishing to drop your dots as your rotation was very slow and the vast majority of your damage came from rake and rip.
meaning that if you were to use ferocious bite at the wrong time it would take you a while to reapply rip, meaning your damage would drop considerably.
I still remember trying to get the rotation right and doing some mistakes at times, the damage NEVER recovered. Basically it was you screw up once you carry that screw up for the rest of the fight with no hope to regain it with all the right moves.
It was super unforgiving, honestly i much prefer faster playstiles, like the brutal slash omen of clarity rotation from late legion. Honestly, brutal slash should just become baseline.
i like having an engaging rotation, which doesn’t necessarily mean super difficult, some complexity is nice, but there is no need to make a rotation super punishing. It’s just trouble, if the rotation is already very punishing, then how are you also gonna deal with high level mechanics? You are just asking for trouble.
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Feral was a bigger nightmare when it was an Agility DPS/Tank hybrid Class… be thankful the you only have DPS to factor into how you play.
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Not knowing wha tto press in aoe situations, when I run say brutal slash and omen of clarity.
Do I thrash and spread rake and 5 combo bite of targets ain’t living long?
I don’t know about PvE, but in PvP Feral is pretty easy and straightforward.
With BrS (Brutal Slash) and OoC (Omen of Clarity), in AoE situations, basically you follow this priority list :
- Maintain thrash (only recast it if there’s less than 5 sec left)
- BrS on CD, better if TF (tiger’s fury) is up
- When no BrS charges are available, Rake on as many targets as possible
- When you have 5 CP, maintain Rip (7 sec left) else cast FB (ferocious bite) to spend CP
That being said, BrS is not the AoE build. PW (Primal Wrath) does a much better job.
If you have the predator talent, and if the week allows it (basically if it’s not a bolstering week), then it’s best if targets are dying one after the other. Because that will refresh your CD on tiger’s fury, and you’ll be able to cast it more often. More TF casts = more energy and longer +15% damage increase buff.
So, if possible, try to have a priority target.
That being said… If a target is about to die, in less than 24 sec, you don’t need a 5 CP rip on it. a 1 CP rip is 8 sec. So, if you think it will die within 8 sec, a 1 CP rip is enough. If less then don’t even rip, FB will be better.
And regarding FB, when I think about it… You should only cast it if you have 50 energy (unless you’re in berserk or if TF is going to drop before you get 50 energy).
yea… When I think about it, feral has a lot of “do that unless this”…
While I am absolutely not disagreeing with Thýri’s list, just let me add: if you are in an AoE situation with BrS talented, you will be almost completely useless (unfortunately). Feral AoE without Primal Wrath is very lacking (it is quite good with PW, though, unless mobs die very quickly). If this happens in Raid with trash … who cares, your boss damage will be very good and this is what matters. However, for dungeons, you probably always want to talent into Primal Wrath.
/Add: The Wowhead guide for Feral’s is pretty comprehensive, give it a read
OoC is kind of an easy mode build. Blood talons does more DPS but makes rotation a little bit more complicated.
Feral feels like one of those specs that the players have played for years and don’t play anything else no matter how bad it is.
In what context are you squishy? You got barkskin, survival instincts and bear form. You got instant cast regrowth in your energy down time. Cyclone? Roots? I’m confused.
I tried other classes/specs but I got bored very quickly.
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