Buff feral please
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The ferals who actually know how to play the game do absolutely disgusting damage but very bad players who got used to it being in a god status in some seasons expect it to be it in that state and consider it unviable otherwise. A bit like warriors, death knights and demon hunters.
I believe itâs time to open the stream of an actually competent feral main instead of complaining in the forums about a spec which is already easily one of the strongest currently
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surprisingly feral was doing top damage in aff fire ele lobby all the time (2.6 mmr, start of the last month)
i wonder whyâŚ
meanwhile having a 20% ms while also being unkiteable
no we have one charge and that wall alone is 5 min cd we used to have it back in bfa they took 1 charge away in shadowlands and we got barkskin in return that is 20% reduction feels like paper
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Old news. Feral has barskin once per minute and survival once per game. We no longer have two walls, so where is my ignore pain?
Warriors additionally have spell reflect, def stance, rally, banner, spammable ignore pain, a regen that actually heals, a wall that makes them pretty much immune to melee classes and 10x the healing of a feral built into itâs rotation.
Feral has âMoBIliTyâ and AWC showed us that when feral was the kill target in two games he actually spent 80% of the game running away and dealt half the DMG of other players and healed less than others did passively even though he was spam casting regrowth behind pillars on himself. 
A melee class that spends 80% of a game running away hoping ppl will stop focusing him cause he has a lot of âMoBIliTyâ is not fun nor a good design.
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I just showed you 10 games from AWC where feral was the bottom of the DMG even though in 7 of them he was not the kill target and basically did anything he wanted.
We even have games from AWC where the feral did half the DMG of the next lowest DMG dealer cause feral was the kill target in those games (just proves that when you are the kill target you do no DMG). You think you at 1800 are better than people playing in AWC?
And I can show you 15 other top rated streamers that say feral sucks. Snuupy just in his last video said feral aint bad when it comes to his DMG, but is F tier when it comes to actually surviving when being targeted and is one of the most punishing specs because of that.
Weird cause Iâve been playing at 2200 quite a lot on my bala druid and almost no game ends like that, most end during the second go of either team and often end a lot earlier than that. If AoE is so good why arenât Aff locks S tier? They have like the highest DMG and AoE DMG in every single game they play. Maybe because having targeted burst and focusing one target is a better strategy for winning? Who knows?
AWC showed that we have one of the lowest DMG even when played by World PvP champions.
Iâd argue we have the best mobility.
Nope, there are a dozen of classes that have better CC The best examples are mage and rogue?
Yes this we want, cause the data and the professionals say Feral is very weak when it comes to survivability and AWC again proved this very points. If World Champions canât do it donât tell me you can.
Thx. I suggest playing some feral on your own cause you have no idea what you are talking about and thatâs obvious.
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I dont get it. I admit i have not really played any pvp in dragonflight, but it is not new, thst feral has close to 0 survivability. Train a feral, force him into bear form and he instantly does no dmg and no instant regrowths. Even if you manage to run away, you can barely top yourself by using 100% of your mana. This is the situation for the last few years now, yet some people insist, that ferals are in a good spot.
Damage is too little, survivability is practically inexistent.
Cyclone is strong, try casting it, when you are being trained.
In my opinion bringing back the dodge chance in cat form AND changing frenzied regeneration into what it used to be is a start. I also believe that doubling the dmg is no exaggeration.
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???
You want feral to have the highest AVG dmg and highest burst dmg?
By a big margin aswell.
Honestly I donât really think our DMG should be touched at all for now. Just improve survivability, with better survivability you can spend more time dealing DMG and less in bear form or running away, that in itself will improve the DMG.
Feral due to how AoE and ST are connected is in a weird place where buffing Rip to help with ST can very quickly get out of control and make our AoE build deal unhealable AoE DMG. Buffing FB will just probably break Feral and make them oneshot or make convoke oneshot and that ainât fun also. Buffing Rake can also easily turn into unhealable AoE. Brutal the same. Maybe buffing Shred or Fixation by 1-2% wonât go out of control, but like I said Blizzard should take it slow and just increase healing a little bit and see what happens.
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Maybe you are right. Doubling the dmg is too much. Maybe giving ferals enough survivability, so that sitting in bear form for so long is not required, would actually fix the dmg issue. The more im thinking about it, the more sense it makes.
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As a healer main I can confirm that feral is by far the hardest class to keep alive tbh, feels extremely stressful to play with one. Not sure what to think about the class over all, looks pretty boring to play (clone simulator) and wouldnât consider it as a strong class right now but I also donât play the class, so I could be mistaken (I just barely queue into the class and if I do it doesnât feel like a threat).
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Are people seriously writing here that both Feral defensives are fine and Snupy is not a good feral?
You cant believe the forums. 
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Nope - Feral defensives being as they are is the only thing keeping them from being S+++ tier. Buffing their defensives with their current damage output and toolkit would make them extremely broken (WW on steroids). Which is why I said:
And nobody said Snupy isnât good, he just isnât one of the best.
Develop some reading comprehension.
Pretty sure having a better Regrowth and a 25% Frenzied instead of a 5% wouldnt catapult them into S+++ but sure.
Guy hits rank one twice and consistently plays at very high rating every season back to back now and you dont think he is one of the best? Whatever you say.
I wondered why this elf priest out of nowhere is so toxic and then I saw he is Lockfromwish. Now that explains a lot too!
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Theyâre already S tier. So yes, buffing their one âweaknessâ would definitely catapult them, especially in a meta of DKâs, WWâs, Shadow Priests and Mages.
Yes, because he isnât. The best Ferals in this game are Tony, TJ, Axtin, Twinkle. Snupy is very good, but the best? He just isnât in the conversation.
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FeralsâŚ. S TierâŚ. I must have been playing the wrong game for the last years i guessâŚâŚ not only ferals are not S Tier, but also buffing their defensives will not even place them on S Tier. Once a feral is being trained, you are just trying to escape, with little chance of recovery.
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âWeaknessâ? Healing for 20k with their main heal, CASUALLY getting outhealed by pure dps classes and Frenzied Regen only being 12% is not a weakness? LMAO
Literally focus any feral and theyâre going down like a hot knife through butter. You can even see it constantly in the AWC.
But sure, nerf Rip and Rake by 5% and give them massive defensive buffs, works for me. 
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Maybe they should revert the 20% blanket nerf they did start of season 1 to rake and rip .
Also shadowpriest is healing for 100k flash heal , has one immunity cd , swap, damage .
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You have a negative win rate at 1300 rating. A guy is playing a Holy Priest at a higher level than you are by typing all of his spells. The actual best Ferals place Feral in S tier. Be quiet.
More like 10% and then buff their Regrowths by 20-25% and Iâll take it 
Ah yes the legendary Regrowth for 24k!