Ok, I’m not going to argue this with you because I believe that it’s a circular argument and you have more time than I do to reply to messages, judging by your post count.
I don’t care what it costs; like I said it’s not my problem. I didn’t say that the new expansion has to include this and NOTHING else, but it does need systems like this. Guolds need love and this would be a good way to show that.
Otherwise, seriously now… what is the point in guilds? Do you want everyone to play the game like you do? That would be a pointless game for me because there are better single player games out there, that do single player well.
Answers getting shorter because your argument has been shredded and you can’t bring yourself to just stop and go away.
Yeah you’re so down-trodden and you’re the real playerbase rep here. If you play once in a blue moon and don’t interact with others, then this game was literally not made for you. Over the years you’ve been given content to do like that but it’s not the stated intention of a Massively Multiplayer Online Roleplaying Game.
But you want it to be developed that way, so it’s the same thing.
What are you even talking about? If a GM is as evil as you make out, then the player can choose to leave and find another guild - it’s pretty simple. Guilds like that won’t last.
If a player spends a year in a guild and enjoys it, then they’ve taken value from it and there content is good. They don’t need to own the Hall/Castle for that. They can get another one in another guild - or - shock horror… make their own.
Yeah because GMs would be the only ones playing it and nobody else. That’s clearly what I’ve stated right?
Then why? You’ve already stated that you don’t interact with anyone or group. Why are you even in a “real guild”?
And I told you that you could have that in the Hall/Castle / next to it / underneath it / floating in the sky above it - doesn’t matter - your idea is the same as mind except mine makes room for both types of content, solo and group.
Calling it a “House” is just another name.
Good. Like I said before, I hope you get your house. Away from our Guild Hall/Castle. You see - we can both be happy.
And you have made those types of statement, several times.
It’s not arrogant or elitist to remakr on the style of play you’ve stated that you do. You choose to be a casual.
Yeah and we’ve heard yours, so why are you still haunting this thread? You keep coming back like you have something to add when it all barrels down to ‘I’m to casual to earn the rewards you’ve highlighted, so nobody can have them’.
And something tells me that you are going to keep on discussing this with me.
Weird? You mean I’ve stumped you. The MT appearances are restricted rewards for earning them, by the very example content you gave. So why is that ok but not having restricted rewards in a potential Guild Hall/Castle? If me and my 4 buddies go and do a M+23 and open a reward, why should you get free access to it? Because you take a slot in the guild? No.
I’d be open to it if you were to do something equally challenging in the content you enjoy, earn the contribution points and buy it, but lets face it - that’s not going to happen is it - you can’t do that when you log on casually.
But maybe we should revise this casual statement - I bet you’re actually quite invested in the game and play a lot - am I wrong? If so that means you’re not a casual at all, you just don’t do group or challenging content, which is worse for your argument here because you’re saying that you CHOOSE not to do that content and therefore nobody else should have it.
It’s not forcing, as once again i have to state that contribution could be from any game activity, as long as the contribution points equate to the difficulty or time investment of the content done.
If you think that doing your weekly quests should unlock access to something that a group of top players earned in the hardest content in the game, then I guess we live on different planets and there will be no common ground found here.
What would you call elite about me then? You keep calling me that but you don’t know much about how I play. I’d say I’m a pretty average player that raids, nothing elite about it.
I don’t think that making people earn rewards is elitist - that’s gaming, and a fundamental tenet of an MMO.
A game where everybody gets everything is not a game.
Now who’s arrogant. Like I said, I’ve been a GM for 14 years now of a successful social-raiding guild. I know what social means. I pointed out that you said it should be social but that you yourself are not social. That is hypocrisy.
World content was core to the game in Classic, and I agree it should be more, but it certainly isn’t at this point.
It should be given love, but so should the areas that I’ve highlighted.
I think I’ve made it clear multiple times. Guilds, which are core to the game, should be given content, and soon; since they’ve been the most neglected core system.
What is your point exactly? I don’t like your idea because it doesn’t fit with your personal playstyle so it shouldn’t happen? Maybe we should cancell all raids and instances too then? You never do those. Oh wait… you couldn’t farm for transmog expansions down the line.