First week of M+

well you either spend hundreds of hours farming +6-+8 for crests or just go play something else

there is no other choice :slight_smile:

I don’t care about stats; 5/6 hero track is needed for myth tint, that’s enough for me. :wink:

I don’t know - I usully invite ppl with 10 clear for my 8 keys and had smooth runs in the past, but the last two weeks were just horrible; wipes and leavers everywhere.

Even with bad luck, you should be getting runed crests (12 if timed or 5 if untimed) which will allow you to get up to 619.

If you farmed renown with the 4 TWW factions, you can get 4x Enchanted Runed harbinger crests, and if you did the TWW campaign then do the story mode nerubar palace quest, you can get another. Those would allow you to get 5 crafted pieces of 619 gear allowing you to upgrade low ilvl slots and also having 2 embellished items since embellishments give decent buffs.

delves give 2 runed crests per run at Tier 8. This is very inefficient. Doing M+4 is more efficient since a timed run gives 12. Even 5 crests from untimed can be more efficient.

There are two types of people, Goal Oriented and Process Oriented.
Goal Oriented get great satisfaction from completing a task.
Process Oriented get their satisfaction from working on a task.

The current gearing system in wow is good for Process Oriented people as they are constantly gearing, there is not really a goal to aim for. With so many categories of gear with so many upgrade levels.
It’s not great for Goal Oriented people. You basically have to set a goal for yourself to aim for. It might as well be 613 as 619. You could even set yourself a goal of 600 for all the difference it will make.

I suggest finding other goals to aim for in game, look at the achievements tab. Even go back and finish some DF or SL achievements if you didn’t get to them at the time.

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the thing is that 10s are easier than 7s or below because people know someehat how to play which makes a lot more of a difference than some more % dmg or hp on a mob.

my completion rate on my main is 100% for 10s, the completion rate on my alt healer in +4 is just awful lol
people a literally doing nothing and die to autoattacks, dont bind kicks or cc and do negative dmg even on a ret with 615 ilvl (a spec that basically has 3 buttons to press to do decent dmg )

I do have 5 of those crests, so will look into crafted gear. Thanks.

Thanks everyone for the comments too.

If you only care about gear, m+ might not be the best return on your investment.

It might be way more crests/gear per hour if you go and do 4-6 heroic bosses. It generally needs way less knowledge, and is more forgiving than a m+ run. In most cases your goals are pretty easy to achieve, and next week probably more people will be back to the game and waiting to run dungeons/raids.

Do you mean 4-6 Heroic Raid bosses?

Correct. From a time investment standpoint it is way easier to watch some videos and make a raid for the first 4-6 bosses, than learn the m+ dungeons and start running them. Keep in mind that this is time gated and might take you 2-3 weeks to get you the results you want.

On the other hand if you have free time and want to spend it in m+ go ahead, just will need way more practise/effort from your part.

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from time invested it is best to run 2-4 delves and 1 +4 dungeon and then wait for vault.
if you want to brute force progress you kinda have to run +4s to upgrade champ gear to 619 or run +7s to skip that step which is not so easy possible.

Im taking a break now, cos tired of the weekly rng slotmachine progress. Saved up 2 tokens. Will check back i isee some upgrade on power progression.

It’s the most stressful season with one of the worst dungeon pools ever. It has almost no redeeming qualities other than a few of the dungeons and your brain goes into overload.

Between the 4 different spell casts per trash pack, frontals , one shots and the changes they made to crowd control it is absolutely brutal. I swapped from healer to DPS mid season and it’s still leaving me with a tension headache when I log out.

Blizzard don’t have many seasons left at this quality without the participation going down the toilet.

Some bosses like the end boss in SoB are the most broken ever. Two damage over time effects that drop you to half health in 1 tick before you can even react. It’s turned into a nonsense.

I’ve timed 12’s with 5+ minutes to go and still had people whisper me or type in party chat insulting me. I mean that is how stressed the game has players now.

I won’t be going anywhere higher than maybe 7, if I keep doing it that is.

It’s just tiresome that every trash pull requires defensives, interrupts or cc.

Then you have DPS pulling packs when I’m the one judging how me and and the healer are getting along and the DPS the group is putting out i.e. what is achievable.

And don’t get me started on communicating. I think the slightest negative comments just sets everyone off, so I just say silent whenever possible.