I spent hundreds and tens of hours just in archeology since last weeks prepatch update…
I did hundreds of TROLL solves after reaching skill 450, I tried new method of first solves (skilled 450 archeology on 2 alts without solving Trolls just to get a higher chance).
In fact, I was deffinitely not enjoing the game. Everyhing I did was just a mindless grind to get a single prebis item with 0% results…
On the other hand, some people gets it in firts 20 solves and have a chance to enjoy the game and do the other things…
Yes, you can argue, that I “don’t need the prebis” and grinding is my choice…
BUT, getting a prebis determines your performance in first weeks raids… Its not just a stupid cosmetic…
Did you guys in Blizzard, just for a split second, think about anti bad luck mechanic?
Something like: “You get 0,1% higher chance to get a rere after every solve in that culture” or anything like that?
I know many people, who want to perform good in upcoming expansion, but they are starting to burn out only in the PREPATCH, just by trying to get a prebis…
The real expansion dont even started, and I already know like 3 people, who want to quit the game just because the grind…
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i started thinking about it yesterday…
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Completely agree with all my colleagues, we need BAD LUCK PROTECTION, ASAP!!!
It’s frustrating to see people who have +1000 digs and get absolutely nothing compared to those who get it with 50.
If Blizzard thought even a little about their players they would correct this. I propose something like not being able to get the same item duplicated 10 times or something like that.
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Totally agree. This grind is as bad (or even worse, coz you can’t see the end of it) than classic r14 grind. Both systems are awfully designed and got no place in current game. Just as you reworked PvP system for SoD and SoM servers - you should do the same for archeology asap.
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Its the exact same for me… Leveled 2 alts with no luck after hitting 450 and spend like 8-12 hours every day since pre patch for nothing. I would love to level a twink in the pre patch but as long as I dont have the stupid sword I just cant. Pretty much everyone from my 10 man raid grp has the pre bis they want. I have a DK who found that sword with the 12th solve. Other Mages and Shamans got the staff within like 30 solves. Yet I am on almost 400 Troll solves and have NOTHING. Its frusttrating and tiring…
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Im a pretty easy breezy kinda cow
I do not suffer from FOMO or completion-ist syndrome like alot of archaeologists seem to.
Its a random luck simulator that was designed to suck up as much of players time as possible . everything is working as intened - even better than they probably hoped for I would imagine.
There must have been nay sayers in the office when this was being made but here are people who have not stopped since it was released 
Been doing some archaeology while painting some mini’s in my spare time - multitpass! …wait wrong one…Multi task!
If I find the shield /one hand sword great!
If I find the two hand sword cool!
(Raptor mount is nice too.)
But if not no big deal, none are game breaking or essential, nice to have thats all.
Wonder how many have bought this sword for real cash by now because they can’t handle not having it
People forgot companies hire people who make casino type games etc to make things for computer games…this is the result…dont like gambling IRL? Why do it in game?
out hope you guys find the sword and it makes you complete
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Personally im at 600 TOTAL solves 205 troll solves and 140 dwarf solves
I dont have a single epic no staff no sword no shield no trinket
If u wanted to piss people off before they even started playing they did it perfectly
Little update - i gave up tooday 707 total solves 270 trolls 180 dwarfs around 115 fossils
Nothing. Im NEVER touching this profession again . Btw if u dont get it in the first 50 solves - its doomed. Most people that got it they got in the first 50 .
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for me its not even that i could just say “oh its just pre-raid bis, ill just get another and then replace it later in raids”
no, this is actually my bis, meaning its something i would be using far longer then 2 weeks
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I get it bis is great, I like having bis…but it’s not something you should waste this amount of time on for one single item
I just dont have that level of FOMO or needing to have every item bis or I have failed at the game.
I personally play to relax (real life job is too stressful to be taking a game too serious)
I know some don’t and every thing is purely competitive to them (must be exhausting :D) but I think people need to chill abit with all this BIS stuff, the lists are great to give a guide to follow but people take them like it life or death
But this is merely my interpretation of fun, others have theirs
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And without it you don’t stand a chance to defeat the encounters, or what? These types of threads say so much about the mentality of the playerbase. It’s all about BiS and logs.
I like archaeology as a downtime activity. If I get something, great. If I don’t, at least I was doing something other than standing afk in Dalaran. Your “bad luck protection” exists in the form of other loot from other types of content.
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You said it yourself, its all about BiS and Logs.
they have created a very different kind of mindset for playing, and many cases of raids not taking you with without one or the other, unless their after your class or you got in with some other connection to the raid.
what im trying to say is, wow has not been the same since the point of people trying to “filter” out other players, just to make raids go that little bit more smoother or faster.
If it makes you feel any better, you still have time and effectively infinite amount of tries.
I understand the frustration. Didn’t have much in terms of BiS for the entire Wrath and as a result didn’t really get to experience it. Nethergarde didn’t exactly have GDKP as far as I could tell and even then my gold pool wasn’t exactly stellar being a fresh Wrath Player. The only two BiS as Holy Paladin I ever got before Cata Prepatch was… Soul Preserver I got Mid Ulduar Phase because at that time I actually managed to get enough gear as Prot to actually Solo Normal CoS (since nobody wanted to run that anymore) and Darkmoon Card which took a great deal of work to level an Inscription Alt for. Never seen Raids beyond Naxx before I gave up maybe two weeks into ToC. Was before RDF and people were still gating Titan Runes behind unreasonable GS requirements.
So yeah you still have time and I wish you luck in your attempts
This whole thing is such a bad design.
The only reason you do it is the reward. There is no fun gameplay attached to it, you just fly arround and click. Also there is absolutely nothing you can work towards. You could get your stuff in the first 10 solves or in the first 1000.
If i knew i d get it on the 500th solve, I could at least come to the decision that it is not worth it for me.
Now i just wasted hours, having no fun and also no reward 
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Yeah i basically see it as a casino game.
I cant imagine who ever came up with this idea actually plays games, I think it was some one who make’s gambling games, or maybe one of those game makers from the hunger games hmmm
Odds might be better in a casino, and inside the arena of the hunger games too come to think it it /counts on his fingers and toes
RNG is RNG - a guildie of mine after 800ish solves got Staff, shield and sword within one day. It sucks but it is what it is, either you bite the bullet and do the grind or you just don’t do it, you’re not forced to do so.
I my self just got the sword after almost 900 solves yesterday and stil looking for the staff.
RNG is one thing, fossil site spawns not reducing because they wont sort the pet out is another.
They have addressed this issue, the pet is not obtainable before level 525, just be happy that we got flywing and archaeology in the prepatch
exactly, so fossil sites should be squelched until it is available
No… they should not, just be happy that we got the opertunity to farm preraid bis in the prepatch… do the grind if you want, if you don’t want noone is forcing to do this then wait till cata launch and do your grinding there instead.
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