change Spear of Bastion to 30 sec cooldown
change Combat Meditation to 450 mastery
change Let Go of the Past to Versality ! ( why crappy magic resist ? )
FIX THESE PROBLEMS !
Forcing all warriors dps to go Venthyr is really bad idea concept
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Kyrian absolutely rocks outside of the raiding. For M+ and pvp it’s arguably the best choise with Nigh Fae competing well with it.
The only covenant that should be screaming for buff is Necrolord.
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Kyrian/ FAE is a monster in Multitarget, something that Warriors with Venthyr lack since its better for ST an 2-4 Mob Cleave.
I cant compeed outside Bladestorm in AE with other Multitaget classes, but i keep up an beeing better on cleave.
Unfortunately Arms Warrior hastto make the decision for better AE or Cleave/ single. Its not like the other classes great in Multi, Cleave and st.
And yet, on the top 100 fastest MM+10; there’s not a single Kyrian warrior.
And for the top 200 highest keys registered on wowranks, only 1 Kyrian war out of 9.
Also all of them played Arms, except one in Fury.
I’d say Venthyr is still the best choice for PvE if you do MM+ and raiding. Kyrian and Night Fae aren’t too bad for Mythics, but are trash in raid.
As for necrolords … it doesn’t even exist.
I wondered what they tested during the Beta to not being able to stop such a high disparity between covenants.
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Its not about Covenants. You have wrong Talents and you dont know how to do AoE damage as Fury.
Oh look, another irrelevant troll who comes on the warrior forum. Must be a really sh*tty life.
Maybe it’s not that Kyrian needs a buff but venthir should be pushed a bit down. Kyrian is really great in aoe and buffing it would make it insane. But then again, the warriors are in bad spot right now already over all. Nerfing anything is the last thing they need.
I agree they messed up covenants for warrior pretty bad. Especially the necrolord. Which as you said doesn’t exist.
You are CLUELESS!
Use proper Talent and gear and learn how to play Fury. Seriously.
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i mean its really good in dungeons and excellent for tanking.
if anything necrolord is the one that needs a buff
I like Venthyr, but honestly Kyrian would give me more flex for both dps and tanking. problem is… I like the theme of venthyr, their gear and all. And blizzard promised covenants wouldt bring us down depending on choices. Well here i am basicly “forced” to go with the one i choose cause even tho you can switch. Its a b*tch… I want to play both…
I am in a situation now where I am basically having to switch from venthyr to kyrian as I am looking to tank mythic+ but at the same time I want the option to go as DPS but whatever I do, I feel like I am at a disadvantage but as the previous poster says kyrian seems like the lesser of two evils and rather than playing something I want it is something I am forced into doing just to keep up.
I really hate this new covenant system as it is very anti-multi-spec which is all I want to do and now I am going to lose 5K anima and will need to get all the followers levelled up again and no doubt there be some other crappy system that I need to re-do.
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How do you play fury then cause on wowhead seismic and meat cleaver are consider as worse build you can use !
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Its for 5 mans. Obviously you need other build for other things to optimize and maximise your performance. Do I like bouncing like this? No I dont. Give Blizzard feedback about Furys current state and maybe they look into it before 10.0.
Just because something isn’t in the top 100 fastest m+ runs in the entire world and isn’t meta, doesn’t mean it isn’t good…
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I feel more and more forced to go to Venthyr
The haste bonus from Euphoria is so overpowered , like a small heroism every second which will help a lot for my gcd
Also the very high effectivity of Condemn which high proc chance and good aoe
For Kyrian i do get mastery but only every 1min which is long
Yet i HATE venthyr vampires & broken area zone
Should i wait for the convenants bufs ?
There are rumours they will come within 2 weeks
Fury does damage? 
ofcourse, because most TOp players are Raiders and Venthyr is by far the best raid option so obviously, leading warriors will be playing venthyr.
Ontop of this, venthyr is strong for both speccs and its a absolute BiS for fury because they can cleave With the ability through their whirlwind mechanics.
so Taking venthyr is Kinda your Safe bet option however, in dungeons as a Night fae Warrior i Outdps Venthyr warriors i’ve seen so far.
Venthyr is a 8% DPS Increase above other options in a ST Situation, while nearly 20% below Kyrian/Night fae in a Multitarget fight as a Arms Warrior.
so exavtly what Disparity are u talking about?. if anything the annoying part is we dont have a BiS allrounder like most other classes and have to be one of the few who actively gimp ourselves in one part of the game with any option.
Venthyrs gonna make u worse in M+
Kyrian/Night faes gonna make u Worse in Raiding.
Venthyr a 8% ST Increase
Kyrian/Night fae a 20% AoE Increase.
If we break this down, to the fact every other week is ST Focused in M+ As currently tyrannical proves difficult when undergeared due to boss HPs.
then yes Venthyr is the Closest All rounder we have, but the disparity isnt there. kyrian and night fae are really good, but because of loot scarcity players are lower ilevel going into content which adds up to tyrannical weeks just being naturally harder.
so People will focus ST DPS Options and thats venthyr
Raids+Tyrannical = Venthyr.
Fortified weeks = Night fae/Kyrian.
you can see why they took venthyr, not because its our only option, but because it fits the Most situations unlike the other 2 options.
Necrolords just needs buffing overall.
only Fury warrior is pidgeon holed into venthyr realistically. this is because for Fury warriors ur only looking at a 5% AoE increase from kyrian Comparitively to the 8-10% u lsoe in ST for the specc… Due to Fury able to permanantly cleave Condemn just does more AoE Damage for it, which makes a even harder all rounder for the specc.
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Kirian is most OP warrior covenant for all AOE content. No need to buff that at all. Maybe buff the lower rated ones and Balance them out to each other so the pick dont matter that much.
But spear is just way too good to ever complain about it…
I was going to swap to Venthyr, but decided to stick with Kyrian for the spear thingy. It’s great in Torghast, but tbh I struggle in some of the campaign quests - pursuit of justice is my bugbear right now as I cant seem to grind those 2 mobs down. I’m ilvl172 so maybe lacking in gear or even wrong talents, but I will do it eventually.