Flamestrike on PTR

So on PTR they nerfed our ignite spred target numbers, if I understand correctly, they want to force us to go to the flamestrike side like this. Witch is fine for me, but there is a lot of sacrefice. If we focus on that side, then our single target damage will be much worse.
+Flamestrike still not working with kinding, so its a lot of COOLDOWN loss.
I don’t understand why we have to make such sacrifices, between single and aoe, especially since the current S tier classes bring top dpst with the same build in both situations.
Do they really want everyone to be an evoker and a sh priest in the end? Because as I see it, none of them have to sacrefice 1% single target damage to be top aoe dps.
I’m not saying that the evoker or the priest shouldn’t be good, but it’s ridiculous how weightless the talent choice is for them, and with a mage, if you want to be good on one side, you have to sacrifice the other, with a Pure dps Class.
Lets just make flamestrike working together with Kinding and it will be acceptable.

Shadow priest loses some ST for its big AoE, haven’t done much evoking. With temporal warp giving us timewarp for every boss our ST won’t be an issue.

Flamestrike doesn’t need to work with kindling really but it does need to work with UI. I was chuffed when I saw UI and thought I could do dungeons without without worrying and about my skb buff between every single pull! But without flamestrike in UI the dream is dead.

I agree the tree pathing still needs some love. Be so much better if we could get hyperthermia without going through pyroblast talents. Meteor would be nice to have in dungeons too but its undertuned and hard to get too. I think they need to redesign the whole layout of the tree, the talents are fine, its just hard to organise them with so many overlaps in ST, cleave and aoe.

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If flamestrike would work with UI it would be better for sure, but I thought that the kindling would also be enough, since Fuel the Fire talent have almost 100% chance to build a Heating Up stack from Flamestrike. With Combustion we could still spred our ignite to +5 targets, and my idea was that we could Use a simply pyroblast centric Combustion then after it we could start to use Flamestrikes instead of Pyroblasts because of the high Heating Up generating chance. But to quote you it is a dead dream too, whiteout kinding.
It might not be the best solution, but at least it would be a little more varied during and after our combuston window.

I’ve played hardcasting flamestrikes with kindling in previous expacs and with cdr on fireblast and cdr + 4set on PF it should be ok tbh.

I just want the choice of flamestrike combustion with UI. Wow is at its best for me when you have to make decisions, choosing between ST combusting the miniboss for speed or aoe’ing the pack to help the tank/healer is a nice once to have.

I’ve been playing shadow priest because fire mage had no choices to make and then they took away mind seer and took away that decision. It killed the spec for me.

Sorry went off on a tangent.

Add flamestrike to UI please blizz, let us choose how we play.

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The problem is that there have been no new changes for almost 2 weeks, and it will be live next week. So it stays as it is now on PTR. For me its just feels bad to use Flamestrike when its not working with any CDR, ok Kindling is 1 sec, but UI’s + 1,25 sec is too high, so inside combustion i will not use it anyways. Maybe SKB will be the option? Its much better now that they fused it with pyroclasm, dont have to fish for random procs just get the 8 stacks and gg. I had exactly the same problem with skb as now with flamestrike, i felt bad when I had to cast without pyroclasm because the proc didn’t want to come, but the SKB already wanted to expire. But at least that was fixed.
The question is how good SKB will be without ROP, after the nerfs, I will miss that 40% under combustion.

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