I know I know, this is like the 3rd thread.
But the problem remains. Casted heals from Holy continue to do nothing.
Healing for 80k and 130k crits does literally nothing to keep people alive. Meanwhile Resto shaman can pump up to 400-500k crit Healing Surges, Living flame from Prevoker does more, so does regrowth etc.
Needs at least a flat 15-20% buff on Flash heal specifically in PvP. So health bars can go up.
Yeah, sure, let’s make Priests even more OP.
where do you see holy priest is OP :D, disc is fine? Yes holy priest flash heal need some buff.
Disc is OP enough, why buff holy…
Because it’s a different spec that’s underperforming?
No.
Holy priest needs a rework in how the spec heals.
It’s an issue in pve as well. Too much healing power is vested into the holy words, if damage happens too fast you’ve got no response to it in pve either, unlike other classes which are constrained by throughput CDs or by mana.
Meanwhile, a holy priest can’t pump more healing than their cycles of holy words allow them to. It doesn’t matter how hard you spam flash heal, you can only cycle your holy words so often per minute and it’s not enough with the damage that’s being thrown around. We don’t even have a real throughput personal CD, we just speed up our holy word cycling for a short time and it doesn’t increase our healing power - the heals still heal the same as they do without it, with a 2 min cd when those high damage patterns happens far more frequently than that.
We’re literally still stuck in Legion class design when the rest of the game has evolved past that. We need to move away from the focus on holy words being the oomph in healing.
It’s too easy to shut down a holy priests healing by making them unable to cycle holy words or making them unable to handle the damage because you’re outpacing how fast the holy words can be recharged. If you make a holy priest move, you’ve already put them at a disadvantage because they can’t effectively recharge the holy words on the move, meanwhile you’ve got something like resto druids that are just like “lol I have to move? lol, most of my heals are instant and castable on the move anyways :)”.
Flash heal would have to be buffed absurd amounts to make any dent into holy priests healing and would be a balancing nightmare and at that point they might as well just redesign the spec and move healing away from the holy words and into heals like flash heal, heal, renew, poh and coh to smooth out the healing. We’re ridiculously bursty in healing but that doesn’t matter when/if we can’t get it back before the damage happens again, the healing needs to become less bursty and more smoothed out.
Like, disc priests radiance heals for a ton, meanwhile our poh heals for… 17k with a 1.3 sec cast.
To be honest to me definitely seems more of a numbers issue.
Last season Holy was good, it was top 3 healer spec right behind Rdruid and Hpal. The numbers were good. In the start of S2 it had a similar problem like right now and was healing for nothing. Received a few % buffs and then became a top 3 healer spec.
Because the tier set propped it up, lol. It still had issues if you didn’t have the set and it felt really bad playing without the set, it was hell when launching my 2nd priest into pvp and going in without the set and then got a ton easier when I had the set.
A tier set around pom is insanely strong because of how much it bounces in pvp, it’s inevitable to get value out of it. The 4 piece wasn’t a proc and consistently increased throughput as pom bounced around.
Current tier set is almost useless because it doesn’t proc often enough and you can’t even use it instantly when it procs if you haven’t got a charge. I’ve barely noticed a change in pvp when I obtained the full set when you compare to the impact of previous seasons set, I could probably go in without the set and not notice that much of a difference.
I agree the current tierset isn’t as good as the previous one.
But my personal problem is the lack of Precog value. I’ve found myself faking kicks a billion times and then spamming Flash heals doing nothing to repair a health bar. In comparison casting heals on other healers felt a lot more rewarding.
I have precog on my horde priest that I use solely for pvp. Can’t get it on my alliance priest because I play it in pve as well. Quite dumb system to gate that behind embellishments.
I can’t even remember people trying to interrupt me in any of the recent past shuffles I’ve played, they’re just throwing stuns and cc and other stuff at me to stop the casts intead of trying to interrupt, lmao. Feels like precog is the most useless embellishment to exist.
It is in shuffle atleast, i can count on one hand how many times i have been interrupted on my holy pala in shuffle
Even standing right beside a enemy dps
Never crafted it on my holy pala, went for the mastery and stat one, works way better than on my resto druid, that i crafted precog on
The 500 something int from the boots really helps with healing and the mastery one i got about 80-90% up time in almost every shuffle, nobody ever goes healer at 1,6k rating anyways
Not every spec needs to be viable in PvP…
say that for ppl waiting 1h in queues due to lack of healers.
Disc is overperforming, so why not just roll disc?
Because not every priest likes to play disc and just dont play at all if so.
“But they can…”
Yea, just like everyone can REROLL if their spec/class is bad. Do that warrant no buffs at all to underperformers if so?
Lmao, yes they do.
Because disc is awful to play.
Let’s make tanks viable whilst we’re at it… 
Feels like holy was buffed / nerfed around last seasons 2/4 set than how they perform individually, cause I don’t see how in current patch you can feasibly play holy even with new 4 set
It’s a problem with the spec as a whole due to how the healing power is divided. You have next to no meaningful healing outside of the holy words, which is ridiculous.
It works in raids because you have other healers backing you up there but in content where you are the sole healer, it doesn’t work out as well. It makes the spec extremely bursty but what use is that if you can’t get the burst back before people die. They need to move healing power away from the holy words and into the other heals.