I remember in Mop you couldn’t get to the dailies in the Valley without flying. I preferred being able to fly at max level but that system is gone.
I am one of those weirdos that likes the turtle dailies 
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Ah the old shortbolts coming out being aggersive again.
If you didnt play TBC dont comment about it.
You actually got rep as you killed and the recipes had a very good drop rate so you where getting
Gold
Rep
Cloth
Boes
As you where farming the recipes .
Ive no idea why you have to pull the angry l2read passive aggwrsive Bs in every thread you post in .
People are allowed to have views that dont match yours.
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Lmao, if you think I’m being aggressive, you MUST be such a serious sensitive soul. And, you clearly didn’t read the full thread, as you’ve YET AGAIN made a full post about the REP itself… I’ve clearly said, twice now, that HOW to get the rep right now is bad, and they should implement more ways of doing so to receive it.
I’m not getting aggressive, I’m getting annoyed at the fact that I’m having to repeat myself a few times. Let’s see WQ’s shall we.
If you’re farming the WQ’s, you get
Rep
Gold
Cloth
BoE’s
Azerite power
War resources
Meats for cooking (sometimes)
So, seems the WQ list is bigger, as you get more for doing 1 thing than you did in TBC.
I need to pull the l2read “passive aggressive” Bs because you seem to be unable to read, as you’ve clearly commented twice now about how bad the rep is now when getting it, which, weirdly enough I TOTALLY AGREE WITH. Soo, how is this an argument for your case, when I agree with you about the rep grind?
The list is bigger because we didnt BS like AP or WR in TBC and your more then welcome to carry on getting annoyed as you usually do because all you do is start to mock people wht you dont agree.
Oh, no, people can disagree with me. A healthy discussion is always a good discussion. I’ve done nothing but comment on the points you have put forward, and you’ve done nothing but start with the “I’m being aggressive” and other things. So, because I don’t agree with you, I’m being Aggressive?
I said you didn’t read through what I wrote properly, because you clearly didn’t. Otherwise, you wouldn’t have carried on about how “there was more ways to get rep back then”. Because, a few posts back, I agreed that there ISN’T many now and there should be more. You had proven that yourself, by making 2 posts about the same thing, after I explained, twice, that I agreed with you.
Also, I’d just like to go back and do something…
Please, do me a favour, go back through my posts, and find where I’ve pulled the “L2read passive aggressive” thing. I’ve barely ever said someone needs to learn to read, I’ve said “You didn’t read the whole thing”. These are 2 completely different things.
I feel like flying as a whole topic is another “we know what you want better than yourself” move from blizzard.
at first, there was no flying, then we got flying in new expansion zones, then we got flying everywhere, and then blizzard decided that flying everywhere wasnt what they actually wanted and removed flying but due to backlash during WoD they brought it back in a way of a pathfinder, which isnt a bad thing.
Im all in for “explore everything and get known to zone and do their quests and grind some rep” because it means you actually get to experience the zone.
what i dont get is, why are we forced to wait almost a year instead of getting flying once we get pathfinder.
or why’s pathfinder split into two parts. literally no one cares about 20% mount speed, replace it with flying and everyone’s happy.
I lowkey smell argus’s gonna be all over the place again.
PF pt1. - explore starting zones of expansion do their quests yadayada
PF pt2. - explore do their quests yada yada.
congrats you now explored the BfA here’s your flying.
PF pt3. 2 options, either we can fly from the start or “you gotta explore this part of the world too and since u already have flying, you wont be getting flying ever”.
I just wish, blizzard knew what their goal is with flying.
Warmode isn’t something I thought about. Sharding exists for all realms except for RP realms, but we still don’t know if it works differently for warmode and peacemode, so this might be the case.
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OMG!!! So it’s not just me… fences, roots, rocks, invisible barrier, stairs so narrow you always fall down… I’m consuming my space bar with this game… even the grass sometimes stops you…
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Given how cancerous ground travel is, it should come much sooner than 8.2.
Ground travel is only relevant in the first month or two of the expansion, after that it has no meaning whatsoever, it serves only as an annoyance and contributes to players quitting the game. Many people are deluded by how it was in vanilla, but it isn’t vanilla, and it shouldn’t be.
Flying changes nothing, you will still see people in places you saw prior to flying, every other area is already dead so it’s irrelevant. With that, adding flying as soon as possible would be an improvement.
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Yes, all those people I saw on the way too and from WQ’s are dead, right? All the people still roaming the world, gathering materials and other things are dead, right?
Why do people insist on using this “argument”? There is no proof that the worlds are dead. Sharding and WM have massive impacts in the amount of people roaming the world. If you had WM off, how would you know you didn’t just run past 20+ people whilst heading to a WQ? Same goes for the other way round. How would you know?
Just because you can’t see people in YOUR Shard, does not mean the “world is dead”. This is a typical hyperbole response too it.
Edit: here’s how “dead” the world is. I spent the past 2 weeks trying to farm every type of herb. I ended up giving up after spending 5-10 minutes on each route and only coming across 1-2 of them (Maybe a few more, but never more than 6/7). If the world was dead, how come the herbs are being gathered? How come the ores are being gathered? Why are there so many people still questing through the zones?
You saw, yes, yet from where i stand, the world is dead, with few people only at the WQ locations. I’ve traveled on ground a lot and there is no one. It’s dead as a door nail.
Btw, people here would prefer if you…how should i put this…, eh, fk off threads like this with your trash posting. I understand that you love kissing Blizzard’s rear a lot with your ‘‘opinions’’, but such bias is not welcome here, buddy.
The fact you need to join crossrealm through LFG to have people around, shows a lot how dead the world is.
Besides, it’s not surprising, for most, there is no reason to go out in the world anymore, WQ are pretty worthless once you’re done with reputations, along with emissaries.
8.2 will be the Naga lands so the zones will be redundant.
This is down to multiple things, WM, Sharding and other things. That doesn’t mean the world is dead.
Lmao, I love it! " You don’t agree with us so you’re just kissing blizzards backside!". Such a pathetic attempt. If you check my post history, I make plenty of complaints about things Blizzard are doing. Your bias is not welcome here either then. Just because YOU think something is wrong, doesn’t mean it is. Stop with the Bias, it’s not welcome here “buddy”. This is just a sad attempt at “I’m right and you’re wrong” bullroar that a lot of the playerbase seem to do.
It’s either you’re “Kissing Blizzards behind” or you’re “Just following what everyone else says”. Please, grow up. This forum is for DISCUSSIONS!. Discussing opinions. You have no right to tell me to “Fk off” JUST because you don’t agree with my opinion.
Please, enlighten me, if the world is dead, as you keep saying, then how would crossrealming fix this? Wouldn’t the world ALSO be dead on that realm too? You know, since the world is dead and all that.
Nope, materials get delivered to your doorstep, world bosses spawn and charge at the cities, Azerite power just falls right into your laps. Right? None of these happen in the world, they just get given to you. You type in this comment, and you get the items your after, right?
Same with dungeons. You just type /teleport Freehold and it instantly takes you to Freehold, no need to move at all.
If this is the case, and “nothing happens in the world”, then, why do you need flying? You won’t be flying in the world, nothing happens, remember? So, might as well just remove flying altogether, since nothing happens in the world and there’s no reason to go out into the world for “most” players. Flying isn’t needed now. Good job!
Well - just that bit; kinda? Island expeditions aren’t exactly the hardest thing (granted, I’ve never done a Mythic or PvP one).
Anyway - the one, main thing I miss from not having flying now in BfA is that I can’t use it as a kind of a “pause” button. There I am, out and about, questing and whatnot, and then the phone rings or a I need an extended visit to the WC, or maybe I just want/need a cup of coffee or tea.
With flying: Just mount up, fly straight up for a bit, and I go do my thing.
Without flying: Either stay put and find myself killed by something, or hearth back and then have to make my way back to where I was before. Or log out, of course.
Yes, a very minor thing - and also, something I miss when going 1-60. But a kind of pause button would be mildly nice - can only use when not in a group; or if used when in a group - still can’t use when instanced, won’t get any of the quest rewards, mob kills, experience points, or any of the other benefits that might make people abuse it. Just makes it so that you can’t interact with the world and the world can’t interact with you.
A minor convenience - that’s all flying is.
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as mentioned in the reply to the op, as flying is not allowed till 8.2 (or even later?) i dont do much in BfA’s open world as getting places is a pain. being able to fly once you hit max level, like you could from TBC - MoP is the way it should be. its the same as before, i didn’t bother with legion openworld content till flying, doing older stuff, in the same way im doing legion stuff now.
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There’s a simple silution to your dilemma: get on a mount and fly too. You’ll see lots of ppl flying.
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I just want flying in Zandalar. It’s a pain to navigate, the pyramid is too high and all horde stuff is too spaced out. Seems bad for making people not miss flying. The other zones are ok by foot.
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Can’t happen any sooner.
We haven’t even reached 8.1 and i’m already bored witless of Kul’Tiras and Zandalar and Zul’Dazar is a pain to navigate.
It’ll look much better from the sky anyway.
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Flying should be available once you’ve done explorer and quest achievements.
You’ve seen everything then, so what’s the point in grounding people? Seems to be based on some weird idea that there’s “world stuff” happening. Players are only out in the world to farm mats or to run to WQs. No one’s stopping for chats or anything - flying won’t change anything, except make playing a little less tedious between expansions.
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Imagine playing in vanilla where you had around 50 areas to explore. 50.
In BFA they added 6.
Flying achievement is fine and being in Kul Tiras or Zandalar feels so small, flight paths works for me just fine
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