FOMO - What Other Items Should They Reintroduce?

The reason for that is simple: I am not content with the arbitrary removal of items that add depth to the game because whilst I can learn to disregard it, that haunting feeling of “I really, really wanted this and will never have it” is always going to be present and will flare up all the easier for seeing it elsewhere.

For example, I can’t persuade friends to return to the game because they feel that they have missed out on too much and don’t think their time is well-spent on a game that encourages unceasing activity.

I’ve stopped using certain mounts and items around my partner as well, since he’s asked in the past where he could get them from, and I could only disappoint him by saying that he can’t, as it’s all gone.

I can acknowledge that you’re continuously expressing this viewpoint, and I will respect your feelings on the matter.

But I would argue that the feeling of not being able to obtain something on the grounds of it not being available anymore is a harsher punishment than already having it, and having enjoyed its exclusivity for a long period of time.

This is a serious anti-consumer stance to adopt. To support removing content from a product with premium pricing not only means to disrespect paying customers, but also to take away from its history rather than adding to it.

Personal satisfaction over owning time-limited items rather disqualifies you from a discussion that centers the health of the game. Neither the health of the game nor players are prioritized when items are announced to leave.

Do you know how many guild members and friends I’ve had say to me, “I need to collect x before they remove it” and “I bought it because I would have felt bad if I didn’t”? It’s a way of manipulating the customer into taking quicker action because previous engagement metrics and sales were unsatisfactory.

I have a tale to tell about this as well. Although I could have, I ultimately chose not to buy the Brutosaur in BfA, as I implicitly trusted the company to make good on their promise to move it to the BMAH for me to purchase at a later time. Well, where is it? I have been waiting for close to a year for it to make an appearance.

Realizing that they didn’t follow through on their promise has therefore instilled in me a considerable distrust of them. I would like to see this item returned because it was promised to still exist in some form, but perhaps that was a cleverly disguised lie to appease players at the time.

That is why I’m waiting to see how Dragonflight develops, and if this issue still isn’t acknowledged, I won’t place any further trust and money in this company because lies don’t sit well with me, particularly since this concerns yet another arbitrarily removed item to promote artificial scarcity and trigger player regret.

It is rather obvious that this is what concerns you the most, the act of showing something off that was obtained an eternity ago and removed eventually. No. I maintain the position that, as players of a game that is meant to be a fun experience first and foremost, we should be able to obtain things whenever we want as long as we spend the time, showcase the necessary dedication or hone the skills that it takes to obtain them.

Yes, and therein lies the problem. You are telling me to begin worrying about what I can’t obtain in the future.

How demotivating a thing to think about. And I’m not even at war with the idea that I won’t be able to get old promotion items or similar things. But it is certainly a demoralizing thought, and to a customer’s detriment.

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You have my seal of approval

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So it’s a double edged sword.

Those who already have it and have earnt will feel upset and betrayed because they worked hard for it. Whilst the people who came along later might see it and can’t get it.

Can you see why it’s dangerous to move the goal posts here.

I’m going to lay another example, but this time the reward is still in the game (to my knowledge).

Way back in 2006, whilst we were waiting for the Burning Crusade expansion to drop. I spent multiple days (I can’t remember the exact amount 3-5 I think), up in Azhara on my Rogue killing the Whelps praying for the 1/5000 drop chance on the Azure Whelpling Pet. If you’ve played Classic, you’ll understand how tedious killing individual mobs over and over again can me. Eventually it dropped :D. All that hard work had paid off. I didn’t know anyone else with it, but there was one on AH at the time for about 5000g (which was a lot of money back then). That Pet is still sat in my favourites because it reminds me of such a huge achievement as a special time in the games history.

Disagree. You’re not removing everything. There would just be a couple of unique rewards earnable during that time period, but something easier to obtain than KSM or Gladiator.

Just like how during the Pre-Patch event in the game now there are Transmogs, a Pet and Heirloom item which will all disappear on the 28th November. Along with the Slime Kitty mount and the Frostbrood Proto-Wyrm mount.

However, patches and expansions last longer than a couple of weeks, so there is more time to work towards them. Most active players, log in at some point during a season to check out the new content. And it gives people a reason to play at a given time. I love the game when I have something to collect, and I love it even more when I really need to work towards getting it.

Then let them collect X before they remove it. That’s the way they enjoy playing the game. KSM isn’t hard to obtain if that’s what they’re after.

In regards to buying things. I detest the in-game shop. We already pay for this game, so we should be able to earn those items in the game, not with our credit card.

Yes, we are all annoyed about the Brontosaur. I think if it had to be removed, then it needed to be replaced with something else. The main reason why I’m annoyed is not because I want the mount, it’s because the players who have it, have a gameplay advantage over every player in the game without the mount. Why? because its the only mount with an Auction House on it. They can park their Character up next to any Mailbox in the game and have quick access between AH and Mail, so they can Cancel and Relist their items for sale. Everyone else has to run back and forth from the Auctioneer to the mailbox and back.

There is plenty of fun to be had in the game. A

As I said, WoW is a journey and the things you collect help tell the journey you have been on. It’s not about going out and collecting everything on day 1. That’s how you burn yourself out. Stick with the game for long enough, and you’ll have an amazing collection.

Besides, if the current content is good enough, you wouldn’t have time or need to go back to collect things from the past.

But I too am a customer. Don’t forget that. And I am a customer who has placed sentimental value in rewards I have collected, and recognise the achievements and commits of others who have got rewards, I couldn’t get myself. That is because that how those rewards were treated in the early days. That’s the game I signed up to and have stuck with.

Being a customer doesn’t mean I can walk into a News Agent and walk out with Issue 1 of the Beano Comic. No, if I’m even lucky enough to walk out with a Beano, it would probably be this weeks or last weeks issue at best.

Also, I could point out that the customer doesn’t even buy Vanilla - Shadowlands anymore. That’s all free after you pay for the sub (even Classic) and the sub is mainly to cover server and maintenance costs. The only game you buy is the latest expansion and that lasts for the period of 2 years.

Blizzard should just bundle it all up and sell it for 150 euro on the cash shop :stuck_out_tongue:

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I’d dig a Corrupted Ashbringer mog, so I could see the RP it causes in Scarlet Monastery with my own eyes.

Atiesh could come in handy, if the Kara portal goes away (what will happen to them, really, anyone knows?), for the sake of farming the two Midnight horses.

Good thing to remove items and content from game? One of the dumbest things I’ve read here. Doesnt take more than 10 brain cells to realise that

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must sting knowing that my collection of unobtainables will forever be superior to yours stay mad quitter

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I’d be happy for them to reintroduce all the cosmetics and toys that they have ever removed.

Most of them aren’t even prestige, it’s just opportunity, and in those cases the people who got them have already had a decade or more to feel special about it.

So what if you were one of a small number of people who went to an invitational event in France fifteen years ago? Have Tyrael’s Hilt become available to earn via currency during yearly Diablo anniversary event.

Old Collector’s Edition mounts/pets? Either make those buyable as bundles like you do with the later collector stuff, or put them into the WoW Anniversary event for TW badges or whatever.

Old pre-patch events that give transmog (old Plaguelands event sets, for example)?
WoW Anniversary, once more - it’s tailor made for things like this, so use it to its full potential.

The whole “But people EARNED this back in the day” is so trite… you know what? Back in early vanilla, having a Tier 2 set was a prestige badge. Does that mean that everyone who got the T2 in later expansion should have it replaced with random quest greens, to keep the tier appearance more exclusive? Of course not.

For people who earned those rare things back then, give them Feats of Strength that they can point to. If you bring back armour/weapons for transmog and want to make them feel different, then have the reintroduced one be called "Reforged " or whatever.

Old Gladiator mounts? Marks of Honor
Old Elite PvP sets? Marks of Honor
Old vanilla ground mount colour variations that were removed in one of the first patches? Have them be purchasable in some timewalking area for gold or TW badges.

Feats of Strength can be prestige awards. And don’t make things like KSM or Gladiator mounts or Elite PVP sets available for currency until their expansion goes into legacy. So if you earn it, you have some time to feel big and flex about it. But with the game at this age, I’ve earned stuff that wasn’t even that hard to earn just because I was around when some players weren’t even born yet. Let them access the game…

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Just my two cents about this. Some old transmog sets that were removed like the Pre-WOTLK event should return for one simple reason. Those sets were removed before transmog was a thing. There are people who had those things back in the day but they don’t have the transmogs today because they sold those items.

Transmogs Collection was introduced in Legion. Any Pre-Legion item that it is not a quest reward (Naxxramax T3) or an achievement reward (MOP CM set) has a chance there are original owners lacking those items they had. Just for that reason, they should return.

I remember in TBC and WOTLK owning many old removed sets like Pre-WOTLK event, Defias set, or Bones set. Do I have all those transmogs even if I was one of those players who play that content? No, because back then I thought it was more important to keep on my bank things like Tier 2 or Tier 6 because those things were harder to get, and ironically today those hard-to-get sets are available while trivial sets for PreEvents or Dungeons are not.

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I fully agree with you there.

I’ve lost count of how many transmogs that I used to earn back in the day, but because Transmog wasn’t even on anyone’s radar, and bag/bank space was extremely limited, I no longer have access to it.

With them having shored up some old issues with Classic, I’d honestly love it if they used Zidormi or Chromie to just let us go back to the pre-Cata old world. No flying (because the world isn’t built for it), and no fancy extra rewards, just let us farm the old rare drops, quest items and dungeon stuff.

If you don’t want new players to be overwhelmed with it, lock it behind something… EK/Kalimdor Loremaster, maybe.

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always the people that never achieved anything of value that talks about prestige. actually mind-boggling. new players do not deserve these items. i know you guys dont care about the game and all, but please just stop this. beyond me

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It’s a video game. The items are digital, they have no inherent value and you don’t own them.

Is that much of your self worth really caught up in what you’ve “earned” in an MMO, when most of the people who “earn” those things have just bought a carry anyway.

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Do you really, HONESTLY, think that the people who got the world boss mounts before the recent change did so because they “put in the work”?

Okay, you have no idea about how game systems work, and there is no reason to even continue replying to you.

Simply put, I see no value in your opinion, and you are no authority in what people do and do no “deserve”.

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you wont reply because you’re used to talking to bad players who have nothing of value and when someone like me replies back to you it’s like your whole world just falls apart, please just stay in your lane and stop coaching players who are better than you.

You’re getting very emotional (and also quite inflammatory, so do be careful not to get yourself banned).

We have diametrically opposed opinions in the matter, that’s all. There’s no need for you to stoop to the levels you have, and it doesn’t reflect well on you.

I have outlined my opinions - prestige rewards have a shelf life. Achievements can be permanent badges of honour. Removing content makes the game worse.

You raging because you think there’s some kind of subjective truth in a design choice is … tiring. You can disagree, but be civil.

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ofc im getting emotional i love this game and every single one of you entitled snowflakes are making the game worse the second you type nonsense can’t you see that you all want the game to fail, dont tell me what i can and can’t be please it’s weird, none of you truly loves this game and have no emotional connection to it.

We both love the game and want it to become better.

We may have different views of what would make things better, but neither of us is here to sabotage the game.

Also, using terms like “entitled snowflakes” doesn’t reflect well on you.
Hastily posting insults only to go back to repeatedly edit your post also doesn’t reflect well on you.
Go take a walk, drink some water, think about what you want to say and how to do so respectfully, and then come back. No one is going anywhere.

Do you honestly think I would have been playing this game for eighteen years if I had no emotional connection to it? Truly?

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Would like to see Rhok’delar quest chain return for hunters, as well as Benediction and add others for all the classes. Update them for the new abilities / talents.

Why you ask? Because it was fun, and gave us something to do in the game.

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do you think i care about if it reflects well on me, i was talking to entitled snowflakes like you before the cancel culture, and i swear i’ll keep doing it.

It sounds to me like you are the one who are a snowflake, considering how you are having a meltdown because the things you feel are entitled to have be exclusive to only you and a small select elite are being … not even threatened, but merely discussed.

Please, take a step back and collect your thoughts, and reflect.

If, as I assume, your only response to this is to be insulting and inflammatory, I will tell you in advance that you will get no response.

If you need to take that as a win, go ahead. It’s my treat.

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