Once more, I’m obliged to make a post about this. Guilds are forcing raid members to drop professions for Engineering and nitro boots. Otherwise, they are out of the team. This is ridiculous.
Blizzard, you nerfed LW so that we don’t have to learn it, but you have done nothing about Engineering. Just make nitro boots like any other enchant.
There is no way all guilds are doing this. Probably only the somewhat min maxers. Look for a different guild and stop being such a drama queen.
Are you sure it’s a problem with the profession and not with the guild?
Well the balance of the professions being poor is not really a secret. Anyone knows that if you want to be competitive you need to pick Engineering (and for time being Jewelcrafting) since it provides greatest personal benefits. Yes you can argue that you can’t profit out of it but thanks to the glorious “If I provide mats I deserve the goods for free or at best 50g tip” mentality regular professions don’t fare much better. And why is the balance so bad? I dunno.
Kovalos , find another guild , Engineering is not as good as they claim… speed on boots is only for the nerds who think they are “gods” doing Nerfed ulduar with cataclysm level power (prepatch character powers)
Kiryaa - Engineering is not the slightest best profession you can have for dps / healing / tanking , who told you this lie ? twitch.tv ?
JC - 3 sockets 3 superior gems
Enchanting - Rings
Blacksmith 3 extra sockets far superior than moving faster
LW - still superior than Engi , Enchants , drums (yes GoTW/Kings)
ONLY reason the younger generation thinks Engineering is superior is for the speedboost on boots , so they can skip trash faster and do encounters more often.
This is partially true and only for P1 and P2. Addition of Epic Gems in P3 will balance the professions out and Blacksmithing comes to the table. Can’t imagine a Warrior skipping that 40 Armor Penetration rating for some useless Haste proc on gloves and Nitro Boosts which are only a QoL improvement, but not something you couldn’t do mechanics without.
Then leave such guilds?
I managed 25 man ulduar just fine every week.
That would mean a lot if the dominating in terms of numbers of players class in the game wasn’t Paladin. Seriously I’d be hard pressed to not find one in the raid/party. Frankly I wish it wasn’t the case since it does make it harder for me to find a spot in pugs/guilds since they already have the spot covered by more experienced Paladin.
Stamina, Attack Power and Spell Power. Not sure how the two latter stack up against Haste from Engi Gloves (I’m pretty sure my Holy would appreciate better throughput in time of crisis over slightly stronger heals though). Probably edge out in a longer fights.
Equal in power to personal benefits provided by other proffesions. No really I checked. All professions that modify Stamina, Spell Power or Attack Power as their personal benefit do it by the same degree as others. Leatherworking isn’t better than Enchanting or Inscription when it comes to Spell power.
I’d throw in bombs to provide AoE coverage tanks really want - seriously Paladin is considered the best at that and we still can only really manipulate 3 enemies at the time (4 if we take a Glyph of Hammer of Righteousness). More than that running our way? Yeah that will require being more creative if I want to keep them squarely on me.
If you want to do something, you’ll find a way.
If not, you’ll find an excuse.
I’d simply move on and be done about it - no need to make a post about this one time at bandcamp, some guild you were part of asked you to switch your professions so you can get some special booties and attach a couple things to your belt.
Ulduar was fully cleared in under 2 hours I’m sure you’ll manage without nitro boosts
While i dissagree with forcing guild members into taking engineering, you are severly undervaluing engineering as a proffession.
Its the only proffession with a passive spellpower enchant on cloak
Big haste use enchant on gloves that synergize very good with cooldowns.
Nitro boost is not just a speedrun tool, its a lifesaver in so many situations, allowing you to get out of bad positions much faster. And not to mention, repositioning faster so you can start dpsing or healing when movement is needed much faster, that alone is worth much more than any other proffession bonus.
Engi also give access to dalaran AH
Grenades being great, especially for tanks to get quick aoe threat
A teleport to several great spots including the doorsteps of ulduar
A portable mailbox
A 50/50 ressurect tool if your healer die
You can argue that its not needed to have engi to clear content and i definatly agree, but there is no proffessions even close to as powerfull as engineering, so saying its not just make you look like a fool
The second you yourself think you should not be forced to take engineering you are a casual player. Nothing wrong with that! But look for a casual guild without irrational bad raid/guildleads that try to compensate people beeing bad or not prepared with minmax which you clearly do not need for casual raiding.
Thats how it was with Leatherworking, and they nerfed that.
Tbc leatherworking is very different to wotlk engineering. Engi is incredible, but its only personal gain and gadgets
Tbc lw before nerf required 20 players rotating drums for their party for the full duration of a fight, something only really realistic for top end guilds giving them a massive power difference compared to lesser organized guilds.
Engi will not see a nerf, because while its very powerfull, it dos not give a unfair advantage to anyone
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