TL;DR - Instead of finding charter signatures, we should just pay gold to form a guild.
Trying to form guilds used to be a tedious process: you spend ages finding nine other people and bribe them with shiny coins to sign your charter, making sure to stay within running/mount distance of the Guild Master to ensure you can turn the charter in before any of the people you bribed join another guild.
Then it was made somewhat less tedious, at least with regards to the number of people you need to find. It’s now five less required signatures, but the tedium is far from gone. I’ve spent hours trying to get people to sign a charter for a bank guild I want to create, but nobody has offered. I’ve offered to pay 150 gold - once the guild is formed - for people’s signatures, but even that goes unanswered, at least for the most part; usually when the promise of payment gets a response, it’s from someone saying something along the lines of ‘Only 150g? Add another zero to that and I’ll sign it.’
On realms with little to no population or activity, the process is even more tedious. Twilight’s Hammer may have a lot of people in Stormwind, but good luck finding anyone willing to sign your charter so you can get back to levelling alts, doing your dailies, running raids or dungeons and so forth.
I would much prefer it if we could pay a single fee of gold to the Guild Master NPC and form a guild immediately, with none of this faffing around.
Anyway, that’s my two pence on the matter; your own opinion may differ, and I respect that, but I wanted to get this off my chest. We’ve had a bunch of other QOL changes recently, so why not this?
That’s one of the things I have an issue with. I’ve gone higher than that at times and found nobody willing to sign. It just goes to show how greedy players are becoming, especially with how easy it is to earn gold these days.
Again, I would much rather pay 2000 gold to an NPC instead of a player who will probably join a guild at the first opportunity, thus removing their signature from the charter. (It’s happened to me before, many years ago when I only had to offer 20 gold.)
I agree.
The must get signatures system is from days of yore when the playerbase was very different. It feels so old fashioned now, like needing a quill and parchment to write to someone.
That’s easy enough if you happen to have enough friends who play, or are on a highly populated realm where getting signatures isn’t a problem. For people like me who only know one other person who plays, or are on low pop realms, it’s a tedious and time-consuming progress, regardless of whether you are forming a bank guild or a raiding guild.
I said in a later post that I have offered at least 2k+ at times and still nobody is interested.
Maybe gold isn’t motivating? Nobody is short of something they want in WoW by only 2k. Either it’s millions on the BMAH and they are short by… millions… or they can afford it easily and aren’t worried about gold for at least the next 6 months.
Plus don’t players have to be un-guilded to sign? None of my alts are guildless. I would have to make and level new characters to 10 (I think) in order to assist someone else’s guild charter.
I have a real hard time imagining that someone going to set up a raiding guild just decides to create one without having at least a handful of people to invite. If I was going to set up a raiding guild, I’d scout out a few people to start it with me.I can’t imagine saying “OK I’m going to create one, and If I Incorporate It, They Will Come.”
Actually, now I say that, I can imagine some people doing that; I just can’t imagine any of them succeeding.
I still see it coming back to the question of creating bank guilds, and if that’s what you want, I’d say Blizzard’s answer should be to create a new type of bank. Apart from anything else, it would let you and your alts join a genuine guild.
In stead of creating guild banks they should just give us an account wide super bank of guild proportions 7 -9t tabs. Odd thing they have this in Diablo where all characters share the storage but they don’t have this for WoW.
Personally I believe keeping stuff like 15 min hearthstones or access to certain heirlooms exclusive to people in guilds stupid. It’s partly why I made an alt guild.
