I can recommend a guy. He’s called cannonball.
One of them at point blank should smash your spine back into line, but it may kill you.
Forsaken have no hooves, horns, tail, tendrills, also they are not pretty and Horde. Absolutely unplayable.
Funny though, my very first char in 2007 was an undead priestess.
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Hi everybody!
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I wish Blizzard can give us Tall Gnomes, I mean Gnomes are too small and I cannot see their mog.
Also maybe Rainbow Pandas we are getting Blue Pandas, what is wrong about Rainbow Pandas then?
I have around 40ish forsaken race on my WOW accounts.
Forsaken has always been my love. Mainly for their dark humour quests , looks and the Dark Lady watching over us.
Classic wow is full of these fun quests. Cataclysm Human plant quest also made me like the race even more.
Now over the year.
Everything changed to the worst.
The new models? Yea, let’s nerf the customization options/
Casting Animation? Anybody who prefers those over old animation should quit WOW.
Walking/Running Animation? I cannot even comment.
Then they announce that Races are getting more customization options.
I was hoping that we WILL see those options that got removed when they first made old Model. Nope that did not happen.
Then I thought OK, since they will make more flesh, maybe they will give us less flesh options… Nope that did not happen.
Then I told myself, fine, at least there are Forsaken in Zuldasar with straight back… Maybe we will get Posture options?
NO NO NO NO
What we got?
Punk hair style
Pink Hairs? Are we gnomes?
More flesh?
Black Skin?
Come on… Could it get any worst?
Yea, we became protectors of the livings all of the sudden.
We went from planting those filthy humans and killing them with out shovel of mercy… Into protecting them?
Disgusting Disgusting Disgusting
Disappointment after Disappointment.
Like WTF is going on in here?
You want your PEGI Audience? Fine, then I hope you don’t mind losing all those million of players over the year.
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Customization are still there. They just added more stuff. I agree though it is lacking. I hoped for a Makeup customization for the females both gothy and normal, and perhaps something else for the males (like straight posture)
kinda agree haha. 
It would be great if one more skin option was added where it was less flesh, for those who like that kinda stuff. But maybe it was harder to do/animate I guess.
I love the straight posture we saw in Zuldazar. Personally I never cared for the postures, but I thought it was really cool.
Finally! A undead who doesn’t like punk. It’s a stereotype.
True. I would rather see a red hair color, rather than pink. It seems very off. But it could work for the girly undead. I always wanted Pink lips on my undead, similar to corpse bride Emily 
I don’t mind it. Many people in the forums seem to be happy about it actually. They are even considering rolling a Forsaken. It would help transmog look better. But personally, I am keeping my bones. It is an option so…
What’s wrong with black skin? Undead were originally Humans who died and came back to life (sort of)
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im going to get work done on my knees, elbows spine and hips, patched over will do, i dont need to be that fresh-from-the-grave look.
i would have been happy with some nice stitched patches, repurposed skin from mindless donors, or even leather patches…i know leather isnt my skin, but it would last longer at least on the knees and elbows.
plus leather oil is cheaper than that special cream for keeping the undead skin soft and moist, you know that stuff by apothacary Lor’Eal.
though i do wish someone would make steel plate toe stockings, im tired of my toe bones falling out all the time.
if that black skin is nice and coal coloured, it would be perfect for that bloated blackened mummy rot look actualy. but i cant carry that off well.
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It doesn’t matter, be prepared to be -told- that WE - ALL- Forsaken players want what the OP want, which they quite plainly do not, hence they had to start a second thread. Also prepare to be told by a certain HMP that you obviously have a Blood Elf Main, like apparently 96.4% of the Devs do. (Not sure how the .4% works unless there are a huge amount of Devs)
I’ll probably be playing Inspector Auberon Degrasse as he should have been, a raised Undead who has human proportions and human bones, and is not a freakish abomination that looks nothing like an undead human. A Death Knight who has no qualms about passing the Final Sentence upon any living who cross his path who are criminals, thus sating his need to cause suffering and pain, but who likes growing roses in his pastime and always wears one in his lapel, or upon a Pauldron.
Either way, he will look like a Forsaken, as Forsaken now can do.
As opposed to freakish rubbish that should never have made it into the game. Go Full Skeletal or Go Undead, the Knees and Elbows thing does not make any sense at all. Nor do the shoulders, unless you are some hybrid rotbrain fit only to be put down.
Sadly the full skeletal option is not available, the original physically impossible version is, as is the option that is what Undead look like.
Why though? They were Titan constructs designed to inhabit their environment. A Tall Gnome would be at a basic disadvantage and the physiognomy would not work?
Do you have any reason to imagine that makes sense? Why a species would have developed that way?
You do know that was a Traitor to the Dark Lady you claim to love, right? LIke -Literally- a Traitor to Sylvanas?
So you want to play a Forsaken who betrayed Sylvanas, Fair enough, thats fine, she did betray the Forsaken after all.
They didn’t though. They have added to them.
OK, You’re kind of showing why any sensible person should reject your requests there, care to give any explanation?
Then don’t, we can disregard this comment, as you cannot state anything about it.
There’s probably a really good reason for that. They looked at them and went “The Forsaken are meant to be Scary, The original models make them look like a bad puppet with no one holding the strings, who can’t even swing a sword except for up and down directly in front of them”
Know what we call those at LARP?
“Noobs”
Easy Kills to make you look hard as nails, you can go through twenty or so of those without breaking a sweat, Which is why most people -train- their new fighters to be able to use lateral parrying and blows, but the thing is, the Forsaken -can’t-, because they have these weird shoulder bones that humans don’t have, which would make this impossible.
You know the even weirder thing? Actual Skeletons don’t have those bones that would make Forsaken the weakest fighting force ever. Actual skeletons could -fight- because they have a ball and socket joint as a shoulder, not a pinion.
There I will agree, they should have given the option for Skeletonised Forsaken, as long as they were actual -Skeletons- not these freaks with bones that don’t Exist!
They should have made Skeletonisation an option, I agree.
There too, I agree.
There is absolutely no reason why a Forsaken cannot stand upright. Female ones can better than male ones, and they went through the same process!
But then this is Darkspear Males and Darkspear Females again. Male Forsaken should be given upright models.
Umm. Yeah. Did you ever play a Forsaken in Vanilla, and look at the hairstyles and the -dances-.
Thats the same Forsaken you get now, I mean FFS the Male Dance is a heavy metal mosh, and the female dance is a goth wafty hands thing.
Hate to break it to you, but that is not a -new- thing. That always -has- been their thing!
Given that the Undead do some crazy things to their hair that do not occur naturally (And always have) then this, whilst an odd choice, is kind of fitting.
Sure, for those who want to appear as Undead. Necrosis and Skeletonisation actually takes -quite- a while to happen, a lot less than a Val’kyr going “Ta-Daa, Raised from the Dead!”
Oddly, even in Caucasians that does happen in some death conditions, but even so, they are humans, and humans come in a lot of different skin colours…
Wait a minute, are you objecting to -that- of all things?
One line of dialogue that hasn’t made it live, that isn’t even visible to the main player base, and may reflect new stuff happening, that has -not- made it live. Thats not a change in the Forsaken ‘Mission Statement’ (Not that they have one after Sylvanas betrayed them) but a brand new Forsaken character… Maybe that, in some way is the new Forsaken way ahead. Point is, we don’t know. Yet.
Again, you’re awfully keen on betraying Sylvanas all of a sudden. You know that Farinell was sent to -punish- the guy for doing that? I mean if you want to play a traitor to both Sylvanas and the Horde and Forsaken as well, then sure, I guess, I dunno, make a Worgen or something?
So far it is just you.
I think they will cope.
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Wish Forsaken could be Shaman, Shaman main since TBC. Meh. Would love a change. There have been Risen Tidesages, Thomas Zelling was with the horde for some time and the Forsaken have been staying in Ogri for a while now.
Would think theyve picked up on some Shamanistic ways, especially since they seem to tirelessly be striving to protect the living. Or something along those lines in the new intro anyway.
Shame cus Im a loyalist and there only are tribal races that can play Shaman. I want either Forsaken, Belf or potentially San’layn Shaman and have gravestone totems <3
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You can make your undead character look like a classic design with hair and face and all that. But if you don’t like the new punk hair styles don’t use them. And for the sylvanas thing, I’m not sure how that lore part affects your gameplay at all, raiding and pvp.
They just added choice for other players, you don’t have to use the designs.
I want undead that aren’t hunched over and stand up straight, until they make that I won’t be playing undead as I dislike that hunch. But the char I want to play the most in a fanatasy game is undead ironically. But not a hunched one.
Thank god, there is another real forsaken player out there.
Yes, that what may happen if I sticked to the race for reason I don’t want to give race change money to Blizzard.
But…
WHERE ARE THE FORSAKEN OPTIONS THAT GOT REMOVED WITH NEW MODELS!! WE WERE TOLD IT WAS GOING TO BE FIXED THEN IT GOT REMOVED!!
Why were we the only race who ended with lesser options with new models? They were supposed to be upgrade not downgrade.
I will still be an undead , with covered bones from that point on though , I don’t mind it at all , more options is a good thing
We all know Alliance have already faction changed xD.
They just keep their blue avatar for forums 
There doesn’t seem to be a light a the end of that tunnel.
If you are expecting improvement for undead you are dead wrong.
Since new model they wanted to make undead more cartoonishly and more alive. Check the other topic I made.
That’s their design direction and no matter how many times you provide these feedbacks it ain’t going to change.
There is a saying something something vote with your money. I am not happy with those options. I don’t want to stop wow, so I will just pay for sub money and nothing else. No in game store or services purchases for the upcoming years. No preorders as well.
Dwarves got their long waited tattoos. Night elves got leafs on their face. Blood elves got blue eyes. All those got options that actually suit the theme of the race. They did not give tusks for blood elves for example, neither they give green humans options.
Options are nice, but not when you prioritize options that breaks the race fantasy. Boneless option does not work., the fact is undead are decaying. They cannot maintain flesh. Simple.
Undead got more living looks. I suggest to change their name to unliving that would surely help not scaring people away.
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Am I missing something here.
SL is taking nothing away. You like your bony forsaken now? Then carry on. You may even want to try a few of the new eye setups on your bony toon, or skin colours.
Other people rolling boneless ones has literally no impact on you. So why would you change race?
If the new model was the problem, surely you would have rerolled in WoD? This post makes no sense.
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Shhhh!
I don’t think OP can’t handle the concept that people may disagree with them!
There’s actually loads of them, what you meant to type is “Thank God, there is someone who tangentially agrees with me!”
Don’t confuse your own opinion with everyone elses whose matters, thats a dangerous path towards Solipsism and thats never a strong look.
Wait, let me clarify here, because you start off complaining about the new customisations coming with Shadowlands, which are customisations, so they are ending up with the same options of the other races, but let me check in case I am misunderstanding you here;
Are you referring to the changes every race got in WoD I think it was, Everybody got them, then Blood Elves got theirs the next patch, along with that ridiculous Selfie Camera?
If you’re talking about then, and that time then OK, yeah, I’m listening. What were the major changes in the Forsaken models, because there were some, I remember that, that caused you misery? Because if you’re talking the new stuff, thats all -additional- stuff, they’re not taking anything away from what already exists, but if you’re talking the WoD stuff then yeah, there were changes, what drew your ire?
In that case they should surely delete the race, or make them all Skeletal. As in complete Skeletons. If they cannot maintain Flesh, then every Forsaken model they have ever brought out is inaccurate, they would have rotted away to just bones, and be pretty easy to just smash to flinders. You can’t have it both ways, they are either actually decaying, or they are in a position of halted decay. If they are actually decaying, then delete the race as a whole, or remove all their options so that everyone plays a generic skeleton, no difference in characters because they’re just skeletons, the only difference in male and female ones being a slightly wider pelvis in females…
Thats your Decaying Forsaken. Thats what they’d be.
They are however in a -Halted- state of Decay. They’ve done some decaying, but that is now frozen in time by magic. Its their new natural state, which is why say, a Forsaken missing a jaw does not grow a new jaw if they are healed, they go back to that frozen state of their new ‘pattern’ if you will. This has to be the case, as otherwise, all the Alliance would have to do is just wait it out for the Forsaken to rot, skeletonise, and disintegrate.
So as we know -that- is not the factor, then they are trapped in a certain state of decay forever, yes?
Do you know how long it takes to prepare a corpse for an ‘Open Casket’ funeral?
A Darned sight longer than it takes a Greater Val’kyr to Pazazz a Corpse into Undeath.
Do you know why there is such a -thing- as Open Casket funerals?
Because Decay takes time to set in. Quite a while in fact.
Do you also think decay works swifter at certain locations like elbows and knees quicker than on other parts of the body?
It does not. It also does not suddenly stop blacksmiths from being able to make armour that covers elbows and knees.
They got no living looks. None of those looks look alive, they look like corpses in various shades of colour and various stages of decomposition, but none of them look alive.
You know Undead, Unliving and Living Dead are all synonyms right?
Bizarrely the only one that correctly describes a Zombie, smart or not, -is- Unliving. Technically Undead and Living Dead are contradictory terms. Something that is Undead is ‘Un’ (So ‘not’) ‘Dead’ Something that is Undead is therefore something that is Alive.
Obviously it has popped into mainstream culture as a term, which is cool, but it was cute trying to say change it from Undead to Unliving, when only one of those words accurately describes what Forsaken are…
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Dude can you explain your thoughts In lesser words.?
I really would love to read what you say but I don’t have the time as I am browsing wow forums with mobiles when I am free and having short breaks between things.
Don’t take this as a competition where you have to write more to make your posts more valuable.
The fact is undead cannot maintain flesh, having boneless option just does not fit. It is like having green humans.
I -can- but I prefer getting a point across accurately.
That has never been a thing apart from Filibustering, which only works in political forums where there is a time limit as to how long they can speak, at other times it doesn’t matter how long or short the post is.
That there is the wrong assumption. Undead -can- maintain flesh. Look at your forsaken character without armour. Its mostly flesh. And Its staying that way. Meaning that decay isn’t really happening. It ‘Happened’ but has been halted at the point you were raised from the dead. Otherwise the ‘race’ is now bone and dust and not worth talking about, delete it.
But it is not though. Green humans would be a weird thing… Undead looking like Undead is not a weird thing.
Basically, if you were a creature, who could raise the dead, and you were asked to by the Banshee Queen, right there and then, are you a)going to raise the dead (Who are still Undead, but freshly killed) or b) go “Sure I can Sylvy, can you get me a funnel, some hydrochloric acid, and a lab assistant, I need to burn away its elbows and knees first,”
“Can’t you just raise them when decomposition takes hold?”
“Sure, I’ll set me alarm clock for next wednesday then”
Boneless Undead actually fits more of the Western European mythos of what Undead are, than the Afro-Caribbean mythos of what Undead are. So you can’t say its -wrong-, because, as Europeans, its -Right-.
Few enough words?
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i politely explained to you about me using mobile yet you removed that part, I thought you were looking to exchange thoughts and to understand each other point …
But nah, I will just accept you are dumb troll and trying hard to look smart.
reading are is hard, why you hurted our heads when many words bad? ugh you a big meanie 
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